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[-] rbn@feddit.ch 67 points 11 months ago

“It’s a messy situation, but generally it’s very safe and it works well,”

Reminds me of the traffic situation in eastern Asia. Huge amounts of cars, scooters etc. mostly ignoring any traffic rules. From an outside perspective it looks like there must be thousands of injuries a day but considering the vast amount of individuals it's still pretty safe and efficient.

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 92 points 11 months ago

Traffic deaths in Thailand are 60 per 100.000 vehicles. In the Netherlands is 6. It's 10 times a deadly...

[-] Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It's 27 in mississippi, so only about twice as deadly.

Edit, actually, let's revisit the data. You said 60 per 100000 vehicles, if you shift that to population, the data point I used, it becomes 32. Only slightly more deadly than living in the southern US

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 45 points 11 months ago

I think that says a lot about Mississippi

[-] Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Its a pretty similar statistic for most rural states.

Consider that the population is lower but the ratio of people driving is much higher. Less cities, more people have to commute 30-60 minutes, etc.

Part of it is poor infrastructure, yeah(the other southern rural states with similar stats track a better record comparatively based on quality of infrastructure by my own personal anecdote of having driven/lived in them), but it's just predominantly the ratio of drivers to non drivers as the key factor.

[-] doppelgangmember@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Florida looks around sweating nervously over lack of guardrails

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 1 points 11 months ago

Don't forget all the meth

[-] emptiestplace@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago

That's pretty good!

[-] nBodyProblem@lemmy.world -5 points 11 months ago

So 0.6% chance of being a vehicle owner being involved in a fatal accident over a ten year timespan? 0.06% over a single year?

Sounds pretty safe to me.

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 14 points 11 months ago

The injury rate is about 70 times higher though.

[-] nBodyProblem@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

The point I’m trying to make is that absolute risk numbers are far more useful than stating relative risk, especially once we get below the average person’s acceptable risk tolerance. Saying “this country is xx times safer than this country” can be misleading.

For example, if we consider a hypothetical country that has 1 traffic death per 100,000 vehicles you could make the statement that, “the Netherlands has 6x more traffic deaths than hypothetical country!” It would make the Netherlands seem like a dangerous place to live, but I’d wager that the vast majority of people would feel perfectly comfortable with the idea of being in traffic in the Netherlands.

[-] Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

My Dad has experienced traffic like this. He said having strict rules is often worse because you expect others to follow the rules and then they don't, people die. There's a sort of complacency involved with rigid rules.

[-] ieatpillowtags@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Complacency and entitlement. Like letting a guy merge into you instead of evading because “well he was supposed to yield!” People will fully crash their car if they think they’re “right”.

[-] LostWon@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago

Sounds like you mean South &/or Southeast Asia and not East Asia (or perhaps just Asia in general rather than subdividing)? Within Asia, injury/fatality rates seems to increase as you go westward.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 43 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yea, looks like it - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPEPX4z4KBw#t=5m24s

[-] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

Scientists have found that bats collide into each other more often than they thought.

I read this as if the bats had thought they didn't collide with each other and had a chuckle.

[-] lorez@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago

That's the correct way to read it ;p

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

Haha, "I don't know about those other bats, but I feel like I'm pretty good..."

[-] moistclump@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

ThT was a wonderful video thank you for sharing. Anyone who wants to just see one bay crash, 5:25 I think it is.

[-] Squirrelsdrivemenuts@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Does anyone have a link to this video that does not force me to watch two 40s pro-israel propaganda videos before it starts?

[-] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

Sure, just get an adBlocker

[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

For the people who don't want turn off their adblocker. It just links to youtube anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPEPX4z4KBw#t=5m24s

[-] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 25 points 11 months ago

Makes me feel better that bats are as uncoordinated as me.

[-] Ddhuud@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Now hold on a minute...

[-] darth_tiktaalik@lemmy.ml 19 points 11 months ago

"Wassa matter with you? you blind?!" "Yes."

[-] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 9 points 11 months ago

Bats aren't blind

[-] AernaLingus@hexbear.net 17 points 11 months ago

Direct timestamped link to the very cute collisions

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago

They aren't colliding, they're just giving each other very adorable and very valid flying snuggles!

[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Wasn't there a study about the same thing but with bees?

[-] saze@feddit.uk -1 points 11 months ago

Did someone say beans?

[-] Slovene@feddit.nl 11 points 11 months ago

Batologist?

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Some sort of bat-man

[-] AnonWyo@startrek.website 2 points 11 months ago

And not some sort of man-bat?

[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah. And he's Hammerhead Bat too.

[-] RoseTintedGlasses@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

[I got a bot to automatically delete all my comments over 1 month old so you can't see this comment anymore]

[-] shiveyarbles@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago

Bats are dumb as crap lol

[-] ninchuka@lemmy.one 2 points 11 months ago

I read this as fat 💀

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