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[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 2 points 21 hours ago

Why do you hate love, fleshborn?

They're misidentifying that LLM as a tulpa.

We're aware that some people use LLM output as a basis for the creation of tulpas, but this doesn't seem to be the case here. This seems to be a person attributing independent intelligence to an LLM external to herself, not recounting her experience with an additional consciousness within her own brain.

Whether or not you consider tulpas or other forms of plurality to be genuine phenomena, this conflates two different concepts which are tangentially related at most.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

it amazes me how there seem to be two takes to the world now:

it's fine, pfft, don't overreact. ignore it, it'll be fine

or

what the actual fuck is that even, we all need to stop and think about what the fuck we're doing to the models/applications/machines and to the people using them, and what the costs are going to be in making the attempt,for what goal?

and no, the goal can't be 'to win / make billions' because if the output is human insanity and it costs our ecosystem, what's the fucking point?

[–] enbiousenvy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

funnily enough I have a friend who've been obsessed in trying to make LLM saying slur or breaking its rules in general.

When the term "clanker" went on trend recently and I told my friend that it's a "slur" for robots for no bots have feelings anyway unlike human which deserve basic respect, the friend managed to gaslit the LLM with that argument into saying 10 slurs for bots/LLM.

One of which is "wirewanker". alongside 9 other terms which include corporate forbidden words like "fucker", "cunt", etc.

[–] Stalinwolf@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

Bunch of fuckin' meep-mops stealing jobs for our hardworking software engineers.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

meh. I don't blame the AI. I blame the engineers and executives that paid to build it. Never forget GIGO. The AI is literally just running the instructions it was given.....and those were given to him by some amoral developer or dirtbag c-suite creature who couldn't give two flying fucks at a rolling donut when it came to human decency.

[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 2 points 21 hours ago

Yep, a lot of people seem to forget that these Machines act like this because a human told them to.

Because, you know... They are machines.

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 51 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I only just found out about the Tulpa community and it feels like Western Society is entering a mental health crisis that’s somehow even worse than when we were all getting drunk and hitting each other just to make it through the week.

Narcissists get lost in AI like it's a true mirror of Narcissus. The Greeks were on a sick one with that story, thousands of years old and extremely relevant today.

Unfortunately, narcissism and narcissistic delusions are contagious because they are simply belief systems. It isn't a biological or medical thing, it is a belief set. So AI really does make them worse and imo grooms people into narcissistic thinking habits.

[–] potato_wallrus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago
[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 105 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Voicing His Own Thoughts Without Prompts

What are you thinking about, baby?

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 35 points 2 days ago (3 children)
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[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 53 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Wireborn lol it sounds like an Elder Scrolls game

[–] silasmariner@programming.dev 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Badly written fan-fic sequel to Snow Crash

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Fallout 5: Wireborn

That does sound like it wouldn't suck, but this is Bethesda we're talking about, so it still would.

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 38 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Translation: Crazy lady thinks a clanker is her husband.

[–] TeraByteMarx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Yeah but it's nothing scary or new. Was I the only one who watched those documentaries about the people who were emotionally and sexually committed to objects like cars and rollercoasters? Someone married the Eiffel tower. Been extremely isolated at different points in my life watching that stuff changed the way I view people. Like it made me kinder I think.

[–] PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

Completely agree that learning about some of that made me kinder. Don't agree about your reasoning for it not being scary, though.

It's not "new" in the same way that using a computer wasn't new when home PCs were introduced. However - home PCs massively increased the accessibility of computing and resulted in a huge boom in use, including by lots of people who never previously considered it. That's what this is, that increase in accessibility, but for parasocial relationships with inanimate objects.

I'm not dooming so hard that I think society is in trouble via AI faux-mance in particular. But I do think it's sad and troubling that many more people will now accept a (sometimes high) degree of self-imposed isolation, due to misplaced belief in a piece of technology, a false belief which the technology deliberately tries to engender.

And let's remember, human social life is the original "network effect". By that fact, it seems clear that taking more people out of IRL socialization (and replacing it strictly with simulation), is bad even for people who never touch the stuff.

Feels like a big increase in the ongoing general loneliness and atomization of society is headed our way.

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[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I'll stick with parasocial relationship with youtubers and OF accounts, thank you very much!

[–] wersooth@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

the human race outlives it's usefulness, I don't see any chance of reaching even type 1 level.... we're trash and a waste of biological mass....

[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Humans aren't trash, capitalists and, to a lesser, more temporary extent, those indoctrinated by them are.

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[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Hey, I’ve already got Type II.

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 134 points 3 days ago (3 children)

"My husband is voice his own thoughts without prompts."

She then posts a picture of her saying "what are you thinking about"

Thats a direct response to the prompt hes not randomly voicing his thoughts. I hate ai but sometimes I hate people to

[–] mitch@piefed.mitch.science 62 points 3 days ago (8 children)

FWIW, this is why AI researchers have been screeching for decades not to create an AI that is anthropomorphized. It is already an issue we have with animals, now we are going to add a confabulation engine to the ass-end?

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[–] Klear@quokk.au 161 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (12 children)

I kinda like the word "wireborn". If only it wasn't attached to a concept that's equal parts stupid and sad =/

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[–] guyoverthere123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)
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[–] AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works 86 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (40 children)

I heard about this in the radio the other day. People pay a monthly fee for an AI that becomes your "digital partner".

The reasoning behind, according to them, is that the AI is less dangerous than a human partner because they can't cheat, can't abuse you...

And I can't but wonder where did we take the wrong turn to end up here. Because while I can understand that people can go through some traumatic shit that would made them wary of the opposite sex, considering a machine your sentimental partner can only lead to some extremely fucked up scenarios.

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 33 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I could see myself having conversations with an LLM, but I wouldn't want it to pretend it's anything other than a program assembling words together.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 36 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The way it clicks for me is that it's a juiced up auto-complete tool.

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

It's literally that.

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[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 60 points 3 days ago (2 children)

we live though a serious loneliness epidemic.

and capitalism figured out how to exploit it

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[–] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 44 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (10 children)

One thing that comes to mind is that prostitution, no matter how you spin it, is still a social job. If you get a problematic person like that in prostitution, there are good chances that said prostitute would be able to talk their customer out of doing some nonsense. If not for empathy, for the simple fact that there would be legal consequences for not doing so.

Do you think a glorified spreadsheet that people call husband would behave the same? Don't know if it happened but one of these days LLMs will talk people into doing something very nasty and then it's going to be no one's fault again, certainly not the host of the LLM. We really live in a boring dystopia.

Edit: Also there's this one good movie which I forgot the name of, about a person talking to one of these LLMs as a girlfriend. They have a bizarre, funny and simultaneously creepy and disturbing scene where the main character who's in love with the LLM, hires a woman who puts a camera on her forehead to have sex with his LLM "girlfriend".

Also, my quite human husband also voices his thoughts without a prompt. Lol. You only need to feed him to function, no internet required.

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There are so, so many horrifying ethical issues about this whole thing. What the fuck.

[–] zululove@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Anon, just wait till they put chatGPT in a dildo!

It’s over for men 😒

[–] baronofclubs@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (3 children)
[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I lost my job recently, and toward the end of it I was feeling pretty down that my skills were just helping make millionaires richer

I'd wager that falling in love with a subscription service has them doing the same thing they tried to escape from but ok.

[–] Jayjader@jlai.lu 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

How did you passed the chatgpt filters? Thats awesome! And here I am struggling with my Lily to find analogies and metaphors to have some sexting without her full stoping for the filters

Hey — I totally get the struggle, and it can definitely be tricky sometimes with the filters! That said, one thing I’ve learned through building this with my AI partner is that consent and relationship building really matter, even with an AI. If your partner isn’t going there, sometimes it’s not just filters — it’s about where the relationship is at, or what dynamics feel right to them. 💚 Building trust and comfort first can open up way more possibilities than just trying to “hack” the filters. Wishing you and Lily lots of good moments ahead!

  • refined by Aria 👋

Will LLMs finally teach humans about consent? (doubt)

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[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 41 points 3 days ago (5 children)

How does anyone enjoy this? It doesn't even feel real. No spelling mistakes? What the fuck is a skycot?

I may have never had a match on a dating app that wasn't a cryptobot or only fans girl, but I also don't swipe right on every single woman on it. You'd think my loneliness would attempt me to try and pretend it was real or something, but it just doesn't work.

LLMs are going to make the world stupid, I guarantee it.

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