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We hate AI because it's everything we hate (www.spacebar.news)

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[–] Kinperor@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 hours ago

I skimmed the article, I might have missed it but here's another strike against AI, that is tremendously important: It's the ultimate accountability killer.

Did your insurance company make an obvious mistake? Oops teeehee, silly them, the AI was a bit off

Is everything going mildly OK? Of course! The AI is deciding who gets insurance and who doesn't, it knows better, so why are you questioning it?

Expect (and rage against) a lot of pernicious usage of AI for decision making, especially in areas where they shouldn't be making decisions (take Israel for instance, that uses an AI to select ""military"" targets in Gaza).

[–] roserose56@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 hours ago

Its an unfinished product with various problems, used in humans to develop it and make money.

It does nothing right 100%! We as humanity care to make money out of it, and not help humanity in many ways.

[–] NoodlePoint@lemmy.world 52 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

It's theft to digital artisans, as AI-generated works tend to derive heavily without even due credit.
It further discourages what's called critical thinking.
It's putting even technically competent people out of work.
It's grift for and by techbros.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 16 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Numver 3 is crazy too because it’s putting people out of work even when it’s worse than them, the bubble bursting will have dire consequences and if it’s held together by corrupt injections of taxpayer money then it’ll still have awful consequences, and the whole point of AI doing our jobs was to free us from labour but instead the lack of jobs is only hurting people.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

For 3, there are two things:

It is common for less good, but much cheaper tech to displace humans doing a job if it's "good enough". Dishwashing machines that sometimes leave debris on dishes are an example.
The technically competent people have long ofnet been led by people not technically competent, and have long been outcompeted by bullshit artists. LLM output is remarkably similar to bullshit artistry. One saving grace of the human bullshit artists is they at least usually understand they secretly have dependencies on actual competent people and while they will outcompete, they will at least try to keep the competent around, the LLM doesn't have such concepts.

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[–] Binturong@lemmy.ca 57 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

The reason we hate AI is cause it's not for us. It's developed and controlled by people who want to control us better. It is a tool to benefit capital, and capital always extracts from labour, AI only increases the efficiency of exploitation because that's what it's for. If we had open sourced public AI development geared toward better delivering social services and managing programs to help people as a whole, we would like it more. Also none of this LLM shit is actually AI, that's all branding and marketing manipulation, just a reminder.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Yes. The capitalist takeover leaves the bitter taste. If OpenAI was actually open then there would be much less backlash and probably more organic revenue.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

none of this LLM shit is actually AI, that's all branding and marketing manipulation, just a reminder.

To correct the last part, LLMs are AI. Remember that “Artificial” means “fake”, “superficial”, or “having the appearance of.” It does not mean “actual intelligence.” This is why additional terms were coined to specify types of AI that are capable of more than just smoke and mirrors, such as AGI. Expect even more niche terms to arrive in the future as technology evolves.

[–] frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 minute ago

This is one of the worst things in the current AI trends for me. People have straight up told me that the old MIT CSAIL lab wasn't doing AI. There's a misunderstanding of what the field actually does and how important it is.

One of the foundational groups for the field is the MIT model railroading club, and I'm not joking.

[–] Brotha_Jaufrey@lemmy.world 30 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

There was a thread of people pointing out biases that exist on Lemmy, and some commenters obviously mention anti-AI people. Cue the superiority complex (cringe).

Some of these people actually believe UBI will become a thing for people who lose their jobs due to AI, meanwhile the billionaire class is actively REMOVING benefits for the poor to further enrich themselves.

What really gets me is when people KNOW what the hell we’re talking about, but then mention the 1% use case scenario where AI is actually useful (for STEM) and act like that’s what we’re targeting. Like no, motherfucker. We’re talking about the AI that’s RIGHT IN FRONT OF US, contributing to a future where we’re all braindead ai-slop dependent, talentless husks of human beings. Not to mention unemployed now.

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 10 points 14 hours ago

A system is what it does. If it costs us jobs, enriches the wealthy at our expense, destroys creativity and independent thought, and suppresses wrongthink? It's a censorious authoritarian fascist pushing austerity.

Show me AI getting us UBI or creating worker-owned industry and I'll change my tune.

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 65 points 1 day ago (29 children)

It's extremely wasteful. Inefficient to the extreme on both electricity and water. It's being used by capitalists like a scythe. Reaping millions of jobs with no support or backup plan for its victims. Just a fuck you and a quip about bootstraps.

It's cheapening all creative endeavors. Why pay a skilled artist when your shitbot can excrete some slop?

What's not to hate?

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[–] SunshineJogger@feddit.org 23 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (10 children)

It's actually a useful tool..... If it were not too often used for so very dystopian purposes.

But it's not just AI. All services, systems, etc... So many are just money grabs, hate, opinion making or general manipulation.... I have many things I hate more about "modern" society, than I do as to how LLMs are used.

I like the lemmy mindset far more than reddit and only on the AI topic people here are brainlessly focused on the tool instead of the people using the tool.

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[+] Psythik@lemmy.world -7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Speak for yourself; I love LLMs.

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I would not say love, but it's definitely a great tool to master. Used to be pretty lame, but things seem to be changing fast.

I don't really understand Lemmy's AI hate, so feel free to change my mind

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

There's a few things.

First off, there is utility, and that utility varies based on your needs. In software development for example, the utility varies from doing most of the work to nearly useless and you feel like the LLM users are gaslighting you based on how useless it is to you. People who live life making utterly boilerplate applications feel like it's magical. People who generate tons of what are supposed to be 'design documents' but get eyed by non-technical executives that don't understand them, but like to see volumes of prose, LLMs can just generate that no problem (no one who actually would need them ever reads them anyway). Then people who work on more niche scenarios get annoyed because they barely do anything useful, but attempting to use them gets you innundated with low quality code suggestions.

But I'd say mostly it's about the ratio of investment/hype to the reality. The investment is scary because one day the bubble will pop (doesn't mean LLM is devoid of value, just that the business context is irrational right now, just like internet was obviously important, but we still had a bubble around the turn of the century overy it). The hype is just so obnoxious, they won't shut up even when they have nothing really new to say. We get it, we've heard it, saying it over and over again just is exhausting to hear.

On creative fronts, it's kind of annoying when companies use it in a way that is noticeable. I think they could get away with some backdrops and stuff, but 'foreground' content is annoying due to being a dull paste of generic content with odd looks. For text this manifests as obnoxiously long prose that could be more to the point.

On video, people are generating content and claiming 'real', in ways to drive engagement. That short viral clip of animals doing a funny thing? Nope, generated. We can't trust video content, whether fluff or serious to be authentic.

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