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[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 3 hours ago

Wow, they already need a message before they're even born. It's definitely not racist. /s

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 5 points 11 hours ago

See you at the Hague, sucker.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 26 points 1 day ago

Fucking Nazi.

[–] DSN9@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Israelis are building long term insecurities for their nation state. Imagine a world in the which the USA isn't the global hegemonic power. Imagine American for one reason or another decide they can no longer support Israel?

Building peaceful relations with diverse neighbors is the foundation for long term security. Genocidal mania in an attempt to broaden the borders, is the breeding ground for future terror.

Israel is laying the groundwork, the building blocks, for long term insecurity. Not security.

If one thinks extremism equates to well adjusted humans, economically thriving and flourishing societies I've got another populist candidate to sell you.

[–] Deme@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Israel needs that insecurity. They need enemies to unite against so that the country doesn't fracture along the liberal/orthodox divide.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 3 points 11 hours ago

Fascists always need external enemies in order to suppress legitimate dissent.

[–] DSN9@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Any short term "forced" cohesion they build internally is now actually sowing the seeds of deeper long term fractures.

[–] Deme@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

Sure, but as if the politicians in charge could think that far ahead :D

[–] redzie 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Future generations will use this as justification for why israeli descendants don't deserve israel.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 hours ago

Most colonial projects tend to collapse eventually. The few exceptions are where the colonist population far exceeds that of the indigenous people.In the long term, Israel will go the way of the crusader kingdoms, the Moorish occupation of Spain and the South African apartheid regime. Without decisive hegemonic backing, they're not viable. And the attention of hegemons always eventually wavers.

For example, if we kill off the demand for fossil fuels and the need for a nest of spies and occupiers in the Middle East will dry up.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Most countries have already scrapped birthright (getting a passport for being born on soil despite parents being illegal). There is no reason colonists of Palestine should be treated different.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 5 points 11 hours ago

The absence of birthright citizenship always creates an underclass. It's a bad idea.

[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 68 points 2 days ago

Ah yes, a final solution

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 63 points 2 days ago

Oh, it's a message to future generations, alright. Probably not one that says what you would like it to though.

[–] Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Wow. Is genocide fine if it doesn't include literal gas chambers? I got the bright idea to compare these genocidal maniacs to Nazis and my first instinct after that forbidden thought was to think that it might be too much to compare them to Nazi Germany. But you know what? It fucking isn't!

They still murder people directly. Those hospitals, Al Jazeera buildings, aid trucks or whatever else less newsworthy for the few who dare to be "antisemitic" and report on it didn't bomb themselves.

If I had to choose, I'd rather get gassed than starved to death. Whine not exactly painless, it's not even nearly as painful.

Not saying it is the same. Just that you can't qualified immunity your way through genocide.


  • - Wait, but the BIG BAD GENOCIDE had GAS CHAMBERS! We don't do that here!* - Oh, then all is forgiven 😇

  • - The BIG BAD also had CONCENTRATION CAMPS. Where are ours?*

  • - isn't the entire Strip basically a huge one? 🤔*

  • - The BIG BAD also had FORCED LABOR and SS GUARDS*

  • - Not for the kids. They got gassed on arrival in the later stages. Or those "incapable of work". Isn't everyone in Gaza incapable of work by now, what with everyone starving to death 🧐*

Again, not trying to downplay the Holocaust. However, there is one crucial differemce which makes the current genocide infinitely more actionable: it's happening now. The Holocaust ended about 80 years ago. The current one still fucking didn't.

And again, there's no qualified immunity for genocide.

[–] TuffNutzes@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They are recreating the ghettos of Poland during the Nazi occupation, like the Warsaw ghetto.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago

Huh. “Future generations” was not something I would have guessed the IDF is factoring into their plan. In fact their plan seems laser focused on preventing them from existing.

[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago

Yes, the message being "kill all the Israelis".

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago

This guy read mein kampf and think "man, hitler is such a swell guy!" and improve on the Nazi tactic.

[–] mustbe3to20signs@feddit.org 25 points 2 days ago

Treating people this way only sends the message of terror and violence. If there are going to be survivors of this genocide a need for retribution is completely understandable.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Someone needs to set off a nuke in Tel Aviv. It will serve as a reminder to future generations of Israelis to not run a fucking Apartheid state.

[–] discosnails@lemmy.wtf 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is literally why the religious right in the US is so ecstatic about the whole thing- they're setting the whole world up to want to root for the outcome that they're striving for- the end of days as prophesied. It's working flawlessly.

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They'll end the days and then what? No sky daddy is coming for them, they'll just die and fertilize the ground

[–] unknown@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They'll end the days and then what? No sky daddy is coming for them, they'll just die ~~and fertilize the ground~~

and the planet will burn for millions of years as all humanities follies are purged with the cleansing fires of our climate apocalypse.

Then hopefully, one day billenia from now, a new ecosystem will evolve and species better than us will live peacefully together.

[–] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 19 points 2 days ago

Ullllghgh. Fucking rough read. Fuck this guy.

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Does he understand the message being sent is that Israel should not exist anymore? They've also made themselves target #1 for all Muslim nations moving forward for ever more. Welcome to further destabilizing the Middle East! Wheeeee. Don't worry folks, it's necessary.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 hours ago

In his arrogance, he thinks that Israel can exist without its being a cat's paw for western imperialism. When it's no longer useful to the US and the EU, it'll dry up and blow away.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Ah yes, the same message that has been batted back and forth for thousands of years, and which has been only made conflict in the Middle East ever worse.

I'm sure this time it will be completely different and actually work. /s

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the same message that has been batted back and forth for thousands of years,

What?

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It was and will always be about ressources and land control

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's really not always about resources and in this case, there's a few death cults involved.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

It is always about resources, just the excuse differ sometimes it's religion, sometimes it's claim about fighting savagery etc

Palestinian was the local population it's their land, has nothing to do with religion

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So the land changed land a few times over the course of history? How is that different from any other part of the world?

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

You just moved the goal posts, but to answer your question, most good people have some sense of shame over that and don't wish to see it continue.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

israel is buying itself another century of conflict. that's the message to future generations: you're gonna have to keep fighting this stupid conflict for ages

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 10 points 1 day ago

Sounds like they took an antisemitic statement from any time in the past thousand or so years and just changed the names.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago
[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

Fucking war criminal.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

That's zionism is about

[–] distantsounds@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Clearly he does Nazi the problem

[–] BertramDitore@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago

I need to vomit.

[–] NotForYourStereo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wish him a very unpleasant 🔻.

[–] Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio 4 points 1 day ago

Red triangle?

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 2 days ago

Shouldn't this be directed at Bibs?