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Details of post-summit call were leaked in which US president supports plan for Kyiv to give up Donbas region

Donald Trump will back a plan to cede unoccupied Ukrainian territory to Russia to secure an end to the war between the two countries, it was reported on Saturday, after details of his post-summit call with European leaders leaked out.

Trump told European leaders that he believed a peace deal could be negotiated if the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy, agreed to give up the Donbas region, which Russian invaders have not been able to seize in over three years of fighting, the New York Times reported, citing to two senior European officials.

Two sources with direct knowledge of the talks in Alaska told the Guardian that Putin demanded Ukraine withdraw from Donbas, which is made up of the Donestk and Luhansk regions, as a condition for ending the war, but offered Trump a freeze along the remaining frontline.

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[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 36 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I don't seem to remember anyone other than Trump appointing Trump the lead deal negotiator for this, people would be losing their brains of Xi Jinping or Kier Starmer randomly started saying they were negotiating a ceasfire between Russia and Ukraine, Trump starts trying to do and it's all "sure let's give him a crack at it" regardless of the ridiculous outcomes of his meetings with either Putin or Zelinsky.. I've seen toddlers with better negotiating skills than this demented fool

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago

Trump is willing to sell out Ukraine and carve up its carcass as long as he gets a piece of the action.

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[–] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Without any guarantees for peace, like joining NATO, any peace agreement isn't worth the paper it's written on. Putin will demand such things won't happen and Trump will immediately agree.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 12 points 1 day ago

Indeed, Ukraine had an agreement for giving back nuclear weapons...

[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Puddinghelmet@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

To hell with trump and putin, no glory in anything they do, abusing their own country

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Oh so we negotiate with and reward terrorists now? Because they aren't going to stop here any more than they stopped with Crimea.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

To be fair, we always have. Despite it being said that we don't, that's always been bullshit. It's said so terrorists think that they can't be rewarded for their actions, but almost every time they try to negotiate we do, which is probably a good thing.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

“negotiate”

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

History is full of example of rewards to terrorists like giving zionists who commited acts of terrors like king david hotel a state

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

trump logic dictates that trump should give up portions of mar-a-lago back to the American People.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Makes sense. Draw a north south line from moscow and the parts of ukraine west of it become russia while the parts of russia east of it become ukraine. Would provide a nice buffer for the nordic countries and help belarus to rethink its way of life.

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I think you're looking at that compass the wrong way.

Anywho, isn't it against the ukrainian constitution to give up land?

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 21 hours ago

lol. yes I did have it reversed. I meant for ukraine to get saint petersburg.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Backing in this case meaning supporting, I assume. Backing in my language more means reversing.

[–] HereIAm@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago

Yeah, as in covering/supporting someone's back.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The important thing to remember is that Putin said Trump won the 2020 election though. Why is everyone so focused on this "Ukraine" thing?

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is the age of information overload. There is just too much to keep up with, and media can't help themselves chasing trends so the algos actually hit them.

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