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This was bound to happen, and it’s ridiculous

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[–] NoodlePoint@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What an obnoxious excuse, there are far worse problems children have to face besides bad parenting.

[–] irmadlad@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I've been biting my tongue hard these past few months in a concerted effort not to be offensive. I'm not trying to be intentionally offensive, however, I feel there is an element in this situation that is being disregarded in favor of someone else doing your work. When I say 'You', Your', etc, I mean it in the royal sense. So, warm up the downvote finger and man the flame throwers.

If it's genuinely for the children, then when are we going to require parents to be parents? Look, you brought this service into your home voluntarily. You might say 'Well I need it for work' or 'I need it for school'. Tons of people use hundreds of thousands of hotspots daily to do their thing on the internet. This service you voluntarily brought into your house, has both the ability to be highly beneficial and highly detrimental all in the same breath. Technology always, always, always wields a double edged sword.

And what do the majority of parents do with such power? They give it to their vulnerable, under aged, highly curious, children, un-monitored, uncensored, and uninhibited. Are you insane? So when little Johnny is caught surfing porn hub, the parents freak and cry out to their government 'We need to ban porn!' No! What we need is for parents to be parents.

There are literally hundreds of services, and ways to lock down your internet. I hear parents say 'I'm not technologically inclined.' Get there. The safety and well being of your children hang in the balance. Take a class at your local Tech College. I'd be willing to bet that when little Johnny's mom was pregnant, she most likely did some reading on the topic. Some even take a class on childbirth. The internet should be no different. Access one or two of the billions of tuts out on the internet.

Now, will locking down your internet like a multi-billion dollar enterprise with a Brinks Kit keep little Johnny from seeing some skin? No! Why? Because it's natural for humans to want to see what other humans look like naked. Children are naturally inquisitive. The prime directive of all life is to replicate. So, have frank, open, direct, and yes, awkward conversations with your children. Let them know in no uncertain terms what is acceptable on your network. Tell them why these things are not appropriate for their age group. This relationship with your children starts at Day 1.

You have 18 years of boot camp to equip your children with all the tools necessary to make wise, prudent decisions in life. You probably taught them how to ride a bicycle, or drive a car, or any number of teaching opportunities parents have with their children. The internet should be no different. We live in a technological time line that is ever changing, so it behooves parents to know exactly what is going on with their technology and how their children are using it. Get with it.

Being a parent takes work. Being a network administrator also takes work. Anyone who is a seasoned veteran of this chan knows, to secure a network in order to be as private, secure, and anonymous as possible on the internet, takes work. I find, a large portion of parents are unwilling to do the work and would rather fob off their responsibilities as a parent, to the government having jurisdiction. I'm not painting all parents with this brush. Kudos to parents who are very involved in their children's lives. There are enough of them tho, that are not, and this is a big issue. It gives governments the justification they desire to surveil their citizenry.

Let the roast begin.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago

So, warm up the downvote finger and man the flame throwers.

cracks knuckles, pulls out pitchfork and flamethrower

reads full comment

Goddamnit.... they're right.....

throws toys out the pram

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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago

Watching the children whack off and being judgemental is Yahweh's job, not his ministers.

/s?

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 60 points 2 days ago
[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Even if kids see porn the lessons they learn are directly a result of how their parents approach the topic with them. Public education can't functionally provide useful sex ed due to politics.

I guess if you can blame your kids for breaking the law you never have to have "the talk" with them.

[–] onlooker@lemmy.ml 57 points 2 days ago (1 children)

How about parents supervise their own kids them-fuckin'-selves?

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[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Talk more openly about how none of these people give a fuck about protecting kids, and just want to ~~make life shitty for everyone including them~~ grab power.

Point out bad faith and don't let it be about anything else, until it actually is. We can't get anywhere because nobody's actually dealing with the actual situation, which is people lying publicly.

Stop going along with that shit. Every time you talk about the fake issue, you're helping them by pretending they're telling the truth when they aren't.

[–] yermaw@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Its simple. Give them more control and power over you or youre a pedophile.

Their families are in for a rude awakening.

Some people can only take so much abuse before they snap and take it out on their abusers.

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[–] Gaja0@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I mean who was asking for the government to show their ID to view porn as the solution to children having access to pornographic material (has never been an issue until now randomly)

[–] commit_aarson@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago

Alt-right Christians. They've been saying for ages that all porn should be banned and I guess the government took this as an excuse to invade our privacy "legally."

[–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Don't believe for a second that this is about children.

Imagine the policies of someone who actually cared about children's wellbeing? Those policies would not look like bans or restrictions for the children.

[–] Squiddork@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Google and Microsoft have to be dragged kicking and squealing into proper policy that actually damages their business models.

They have been completely silent on these age verification checks, in Aus this is being implemented by an un-elected government official whose career was largely working for Microsoft for the past 20 years.

This is all about data mining.

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[–] PacketPilot@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Honestly I think access to AI chatbots at an early age is way more harmful to the developing brain. Character.ai is a very popular platform among younger gen z. LLMs are giving grown adults full blown psychosis, where's all the concern for the children when it comes to a dangerous tool like that? What a bunch of geriatric fucking clowns.

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[–] riskable@programming.dev 41 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I guess it's just too late for all those children that viewed porn. The piles of their dead bodies must be enormous!

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[–] pankuleczkapl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This is so fucking stupid, you cannot stop VPNs, because things like ShadowSocks exist. When will they learn that the only way to stop VPNs is to disable the internet completely. As long as the internet exists, VPNs will too. Ask your friend Xi Jinping about that.

[–] MarriedCavelady50@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Xi Jinping will be more than happy to provide consultation work for the UK government. Stop giving them ideas.

VPN use in China is effectively banned. Big corporations serve shittier Facebook that 99% of the population is satisfied with.

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[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

children figuring out VPNs in a week while these bumfucks (state that they) didn't manage to understand it in the years they've been given just goes to show the many orders of magnitudes of difference in their intelligence

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 2 days ago (4 children)

No, this is intentional, the ultimate goal is a censored internet a la China. This was just the easiest gateway to doing that.

They are coming for VPNs next.

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[–] DreamAccountant@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Same religious garbage they've been trying to pull for the last 75+ years.

"Someone think of the CHILDREN!!!".

They scream, as they take away your rights to information, privacy, and anything else that they possibly can. They don't want you to have rights.

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[–] ideonek@piefed.social 36 points 2 days ago

Stop blocking Wikipedia

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Could we take wind out of the excuse "it's to protect the children" by implementing a signal like DoNotTrack/GPC but for NSFW content?

[–] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

[Find in Page:] "Parent"=0 "Parents"=0 "Father"=0 "Mother"=0

It's their job to guard their kids from this content first and foremost. It's their job to put it into context for their children. But the article doesn't even mention that any of this is a humongous failing of parents.

Next this commissioner will want to outlaw computer mice because they're used to click pornographic content without verifying the age of the finger on the button. And roads because adult content actors use them to get to jobs.

The way forward is not banning or making worse all sorts of useful tools as collateral damage in this "think of the children" campaign. It is to get all adult content everywhere behind a barrier toddlers cannot break. We were fine with porn mags partially obscured on the top shelf at a news agent when that was a thing. And the salesperson making sure the customer wasn't a minor. The solution isn't closing all digital news agents.

And it's quite telling that the existence of VPNs didn't play a bigger part in this UK online safety initiative. Like it wasn't obvious that when the west entrance to porn central was closed off, people wouldn't naturally look for the ones in east, north, and south.

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[–] icelimit@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I have a great job lined up in the UK, I'm not sure I can take it up considering that is turning into this kind of shit hole.

Don't give them your human capital.

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[–] Hauntology95@lemmy.ml 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

A friend recently told me that palantir has some sort of stake in this data management for the OSA? Is this true? I know they’ve had a deal with NHS England for a few years

If so, our world is taking a very scary turn

If anyone hasn’t I’d advise to do research on palantir, Peter thiel and Curtis Yarvin for a window into the psychology of the people pushing us down this road

Here’s a great video on the subject

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[–] pieman@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think they will ban vpns but as this article hints at, more regulation

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

So SSH tunneling it is

That is until encryption is outlawed altogether making the internet truly a horrible place to be

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That is until encryption is outlawed

Like all things that are prohibited it will just go underground.

So long as two computers are able to talk to one an other it will be possible to encrypt that traffic>

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