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A man with no connection to the group or organisers briefly interrupted the press conference to yell an antisemitic phrase.
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That's what's so frustrating. As if doing a genocide wasn't bad enough on its own, by their attempts to deflect attention away from the genocide they are committing, Israel is providing a shockingly effective shield that emboldens actual antisemites to think they can speak out without rebuke.
I mean to be fair it's not Israel's fault the green left are now being recruited by Islamic State and supported by Nazi's
This is just a propaganda war they've bought into
They managed to interview all these random civilians... but somehow couldn't interview 1 government member
I guess actually holding Hamas accountable is a bridge too far...
I mean to be fair itโs not Israelโs fault
It literally is. Literally everything about the situation is Israel's fault.
Israel came along as a neocolonialist state, kicked the local people off their land and stuffed them into the world's largest open-air prison. It let them elect their own government, but only after helping fund the more extremist wings in order to destabilise the peace process and ruin any chance of a peaceful two-state solution.
Every person Hamas kills is Israel's fault. Israel created Hamas, on purpose, because it did not want peace. It wanted an excuse to continue doing settler colonialism and to wipe out the local population.
Dig that keyboard of yours further into the sand. Israel is the monstrous entity here, and their leaders definitely got their say in this article.
green left
Propaganda about the 'left', 'activists' or whatever other post-it note fascists have decided to factionalise for its culture wars today is only more screeching into their already boiled ether for brains.
Let them spew their verbal diarrhoea into each other's mouths, ignore, move on, laugh at them, then help the people they hurt.
As for the palestinian interviews, its grindingly normal journalism to talk to members of a protest, in a report about said protest. Its almost like the protesters want to communicate a message, and the reporter wants to report on... said message.
Seems they have tried to find leader figures for you at the protest though,
In Australia we often call journalists 'Thought and/or Voice Leaders'.
Palestine and Israel are different places though, maybe they have a different idea about what a journalists are, i don't know, you'd have to ask them.
Ziad Al-Najjar, 55, secretary of the Lawyers' Syndicate, said Israel had gone far beyond targeting Hamas.
I mean, they could've got the Chairman, or Treasurer of the group, Secretaries just do coffee runs, am I right?
Quote from the Health Authority,
It prompted an angry response from Palestinian health authorities.
"The Ministry of Health expresses its rejection of any step that would undermine what remains of the health system following the systematic destruction carried out by the Israeli occupation authorities," it said in a statement.
"This step would deprive more than 1 million people of their right to treatment and put the lives of residents, patients, and the wounded at imminent risk."
Health Authority? You're right this ones obvious bullshit. Israels been killing all the medics. Oh, maybe theres still some left? Good news, some escaped the bombings. yay....
Palestine and Israel are different places though, maybe they have a different idea about what a journalists are
I think it's pretty well-known that in Israel, "journalist" means "valid target".
Maybe even upgraded to terrorist after death judging by todays reporting by the terr.. checks notes... journalists.
The health authority has no authority on ending the war, this is just more propaganda that you are falling for
Hamas is the government, the Palestinians support the government, the government does not want a cease fire (this much is clear) so they have no other option but to propagandise naive westerners
btw
In Sudanโs Zamzam camp for displaced people, one child is dying of malnutrition every two hours.
https://www.worldvision.com.au/global-issues/world-emergencies/sudan-hunger-crisis-appeal
Not heard a single thing, not one article about this
Remember when you were all over black lives matter? ๐
sigh
As for the palestinian interviews, its grindingly normal journalism to talk to members of a protest, in a report about said protest. Its almost like the protesters want to communicate a message, and the reporter wants to report on... said message.
You're link was to a report about a protest, its not about whatever semblance of "government" is left in Gaza. Stay on the topic you've chosen Ikt, its tiring to explain this stuff when you get muddled between the topics.
I'd happily upvote any posts you make highlighting other (real) conflicts; genocides; crimes against humanity that are happening around the world.
In fact, it might be a good distraction from Gaza for you as well, since mention of that particular genocide seems to sit unhappily with you.
Go ahead, the users of this platform overwhelmingly have big enough hearts and minds to incorporate these sort of posts however sad or dire.
Support for Hamas is a direct result of Israel's long term attacks, and crushing of Palestinian's lives. If Israel wanted to be a benevolent and reliable neighbour they could, but they don't want that, so Palestinians have few places or people to turn to. Its almost like Israel planned for that outcome, but i don't work in intelligence, i'm barely intelligent! So how could i know anythjng about that..
Remember when you were all over black lives matter? ๐
Outing yourself here a bit.
Support for Hamas is a direct result of Israelโs long term attacks
Support for Israel is a direct result of Palestine's long term attacks
If Israel wanted to be a benevolent and reliable neighbour they could
If Palestine wanted to be a benevolent and reliable neighbour they could
See how this works?
Israel literally gave Gaza back, they could have made massive improvements to their society, decided to give up on genociding Israel and instead went full diplomacy
Now they're left crying in pictures to rally green haired inner city left wing hippies after brutally raping and jihading their way across Israel on Oct 7th while continuing to not return hostages and fire rockets at Israel and behead/torture dissidents who don't agree with the Hamas regime
Yep, i see the pattern, you go back to familiar online arguments every time i make a point about your specific stance or comments about the topic at hand that you have trouble arguing against.
Be honest with yourself you aren't debating these issues from a position of fairness.
Israel literally gave Gaza back...
Then proceeded to squeeze the population by increasingly controlling utilities and other connections with the outside world, and contrive to support Hamas and undermine Palestinian statehood, Times of Israel.
I could go on, blah, blah, early 1900's zionist program, Nakba, Israeli settler terrorists, etc and help you expand the scope right out until the original issues being discussed are lost in the argument.
Or,
We could agree that ABC article you cited and lambasted was actually fine, after all it was a report about a protest, interviewing protesters
Your complaints they didn't go and find some Hamas official, down at their Hamas Civil Discourse Media Centre, (which totally exists), lazily ignores the rights and voices of the Palestinian people at that protest.
Undermining these people, undermines any cause for peace, if you, or I, or anyone else want to see peace, these are the voices we need to lift up and protect. And stop dividing to rule.
I don't disagree with much of your last statement, Oct 7th also had crimes against humanity, Hamas have been bad actors. This is being fair minded.
The phrase 'seeing the wood for the trees' comes to mind here. As in not all Palestinians deserve to be treated as if they're torturers or war criminals, just like not all Israeli's, but some on both sides certainly do.
Also, the semi-rural purple nailed alt-goths are really unhappy you left them out of that last statement. Their hair not green enough? For shame!
and contrive to support Hamas and undermine Palestinian statehood, Times of Israel.
Why do you treat the Palestinians like infants?
https://www.pcpsr.org/en/node/997
Support for the attack on October 7: Once again, findings show decline in the overall support for the October 7 Hamas offensive. The decline is seen in both the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. It is important to note that support for this attack does not necessarily mean support for Hamas and does not mean support for any killings or atrocities committed against civilians. Indeed, almost 90% of the public believes Hamas men did not commit the atrocities depicted in videos taken on that day.
Delusional support for Hamas
Anti-Hamas demonstrations in the Gaza Strip: Gazans are split almost in the middle for and against the recent anti-Hamas demonstrations in the Gaza Strip. Nonetheless, most Gazans think the demonstrations are driven and motivated by outside hands.
Ah yes it must be the west organising these protests, they don't even support their own people.
If they could only kill all the infidels like you and me then the world would only have the religion of peace and everything would be fine
and on the topic of the big bad evil genocidal Israel
Trumpโs and Israeli calls for displacing Gazans: While the majority says it does not want to leave the Gaza Strip after the war ends, a large minority wants to do that. Similarly, about half of Gazans are willing to apply to Israel to help them emigrate to other countries via Israeli ports and airports.
Can you imagine half of Jews wanting to go to Nazi Germany? Or half of Tutsi's willing to go to Rwanda ? This is the worst genocide ever ๐
This is why they don't interview Hamas and instead stick to Hamas approved propaganda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAva9VM38uA
Also, the semi-rural purple nailed alt-goths are really unhappy you left them out of that last statement. Their hair not green enough? For shame!
alt-goths are cool they can stay, even if their opinion is wrong ๐
I love it how i make points and you casually ignore them, or deflect them then run back to your talking points.
Not gona address Israeli support for Hamas as a strategy; not gona address the fact that you're initial point about an article focused on a protest didn't need to run and ask some Hamas bloke their opinion; did you make that post about Sudan yet? It is am important issue, i don't want you forget.
... My bad, you did address the goths point, i'll make sure to pass it on to the Goth Public Discourse Agency, which is totally a thing.
Tutsi's still live in Rwanda, took me a second to look that up. Your arguments, as usual, stray into off topic and nonsensical comparisons. Its almost like you don't care, as long as the Israeli propaganda line is pushed.
Your big gotcha of this comment doesn't make sense in todays debate between us. I never claimed there was no/little Palestinian support for Hamas, i said the protesters should be listened to, and you continue to ignore them by refering to support for Hamas.
Talk about treating Palestinians like infants, try listening to them when they protest. I guess we only treat them like infants when it suits Israel, hey?
Speaking of infants, maybe we should treat the Gaza strip like there are infants there? And allow in enough aid so infants don't starve or worse to death?
Nope, you've flipped me! Its time to start treating the Gaza strip like we would an infant, protect them, feed them, clothe them house them, educate them, and watch them grow!
Ikt you're right we need to start treating Gazans like we would our infants! I've had a revelation today! Somebody call the hippies and goths! They have protest signs to make!
Nope, youโve flipped me! Its time to start treating the Gaza strip like we would an infant, protect them, feed them, clothe them house them, educate them, and watch them grow!
Funnily enough that's what Europe tried to do, it figured they can suckle on the teat of our welfare states, with food, education, no wars, they can grow up big and strong and contribute to society like regular normal westerners !
As anti-immigrant sentiment surges in Europe, under-threat leaders are embracing formerly taboo approaches to their borders.
https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-eu-migration-policy-viktor-orban-muslims-ban/
Oh
... the EU collective has shifted from the โwe can do itโ stance of former German Chancellor Angela Merkel to trying to shoo new arrivals away from the EU border altogether.
Oh dear
It's almost like when you have to live next to them your opinion changes ๐
Decide to go full mask off with this one? ๐ Or have i got the wrong Tampa?
Love it how we've now crossed the Mediterranean, as well as now 'Muslims bad, especially if their you're neighbour' or is it undocumented immigrants? Does it matter?
We apparently started this debate over an article on a protest in Gaza, which is in Asia by the way, which you still don't seem to want to address anymore. What happened to the protesters not being good enough to interview? Or the lackbof Hamas interviewees?
But hey i'm from Perth, so i love goin on a Continental roll! Badumtisch!
On you go with your new, and even more string-bare tangent. But don't forget to post more about Sudan, i know how important it is to you. And, if you make any demographic claims, be sure to double check them before you post, that Tutsi one fell flatter than a pancake.
This green haired, orange tailed, purple polkadotted umie killa is off to bed. Nighty night Ikt.
Decide to go full mask off with this one? ๐ Or have i got the wrong Tampa?
? What is Tampa?
What happened to the protesters not being good enough to interview? Or the lackbof Hamas interviewees?
Nothing changed, I replied here:
This is why they donโt interview Hamas and instead stick to Hamas approved propaganda
Here's the latest on the ABC homepage right now:
These pictures make for a great https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_emotion
But again no word from the government of Palestine
They're the only government that is apparently not worth talking to despite the fact they're the ones causing all this (with Palestinian support).
Every day Russian government and Ukraine government interviewed, in Palestine/Israel war, it's only Israel that is pressed, honestly with how absent Hamas is you'd think Israel is just fighting civilians...oh wait ๐
This green haired, orange tailed, purple polkadotted umie killa is off to bed. Nighty night Ikt.
Nights!
We talk about Palestine because our own government is complicit in the genocide there, because it gives weapons to the people committing genocide. You know this, you've heard it before. Shut the fuck up with this whataboutism bullshit.