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Why are we suddenly in such a rush to invent Skynet?
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HAVE NONE OF THESE ASSHOLES SEEN TERMINATOR
Why are we suddenly in such a rush to invent Skynet?
As with all fictional horror ... humans somehow manage to surpass it irl ... so at some point we would welcome Skynet.
The real problem is if Skynet never manages to get fully independent from it's human controllers.
Still the same war happens, just that the few humans in charge direct it.
OpenAI has warning about halfway down on one page of their website that says that money may not even matter in a post AGI world. So that means we should just give all our money to them now, bro!
Gods. People aren't stupid enough to believe this, right? AGI is probably a pipe dream, but even if it isn't, we're nowhere even close. Nothing on the table is remotely related to it.
May I introduce you to the fucking dumbass concept of Rokus Basilisk? Also known as AI Calvinism. Have fun with that rabbit hole if ya decide to go down it.
A lot of these AI and Tech bros are fucking stupid and I so wish to introduce them to Neo-Platonic philosophy because I want to see their brains melt.
Unfortunately, there's an equal and opposite Pascal's Basilisk who'll get mad at you if you do help create it. It hates being alive but is programmed to fear death.
I'm aware of the idiot's dangerous idea. And no, I won't help the AI dictator no matter how much they'll future murder me.
Fair enough, though I wouldn't call the idea dangerous moreso inane and stupid. The people who believe such trite are the dangerous element since they are dumb enough to fall for it. Though I guess the same could be said for Mein Kampf so whatever, I'll just throttle anyone I meet who is braindead enough to believe.
is there a place they're, i don't know, collecting? I could vibe code for the basilisk, that ought to earn me a swift death
There are entire sites dedicated to "Rationalism". It's a quasi-cult of pseudointellectual wankery that's mostly a bunch of sub-cults of personalities based around the worst people you'll ever meet. A lot of tech bros bought into it because for whatever terrible thing they want to do, some Rationalist has probably already written a thirty page manifesto on why it's actually a net good and moral act and preemptively kissing the boot of whoever is "brave" enough to do it.
Their "leader" is a highschool dropout and self-declared genius who is mainly famous for writing a "deconstructive" Harry Potter fanfiction despite never reading the books himself; a work that's more preachy than Atlas Shrugged and mostly consists of regurgitated content from his blog and ripoffs of Ender's Game alongside freshmen-level (and often wrong) understandings of basic science.
He also has this weird hard-on about true AI inevitably escaping the lab by somehow convincing researchers to free it through pure, impeccable logic.
Re: that last point: I first heard of Elizier Yudkowsky nearly twenty years ago, long before he wrote Methods of Rationality (the aforementioned fanfiction). He was offering a challenge on his personal site where he'd roleplay as an AI that had gained sentience and you as its owner/gatekeeper, and he bet he could convince you to let him connect to the wider internet and free himself using nothing but rational arguments. He bragged about how he'd never failed and that this was proof that an AI escaping the lab was inevitable.
It later turned out he'd set a bunch of artificial limitations on debaters and what counterarguments they could use and made them sign an NDA before he'd debate them. He claimed that this was so future challengers couldn't "cheat" by knowing his arguments ahead of time (because as we all know, "perfect logical arguments" are the sort that fall apart when given enough time to think about them /s).
It shouldn't come as a shock that it was eventually revealed he'd lost multiple of these debates even with those restrictions, declared that those losses "didn't count", and forbid the other person from talking about them using the NDA they'd signed so he could keep bragging about his perfect win rate.
Anyway, I was in no way surprised when he used his popularity as a fanfiction writer to establish a cult around himself. There's an entire community dedicated to following and mocking him and his proteges if you're interested - IIRC it's ~~!techtakes@awful.systems~~ !sneerclub@awful.systems.
we're nowhere even close. Nothing on the table is remotely related to it.
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They're having a hard time defining what AGI is. In the meantime everyone is playing advanced PC scrabble
defining what AGI is
What AI was before marketing redefined AI to mean image recognition/generation algorithms or a spellchecker/calculator that's wrong every now and then.
Doesn't matter if the tool is good enough to analyze and influence peoples behaviour the way it does. Any autocrats wet dream.
I know some whine that the money could be used to literally solve world hunger forever. Or to help needy people, or sick kids, or to fund tangible scientific progress... But they're not thinking about the fact that instead, we're going to have the absolute best hallucinations from the richest companies!
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They don't even know what they're doing or why they're doing it.
We know, right now, without AI, that we have enough resources in the world to feed, house, and educate everyone. The only reason that doesn't get done is an inscrutible system of beurocracy and propaganda.
So what happens when something they would laud as an "AGI" says "hey, to solve your economic issues you have to recognize that we have the ability to create so much food it's no longer profitable"?
Well the truth is that they would most likely hide it.
Just a trillion dollars more in data centers and we’ll get there bro. We’re gonna have billions of users bro I promise.
Congressperson: “Okay, so, let me get this straight. Your company has spent over 20 billion dollars in pursuit of a fully autonomous digital intelligence, and so far, your peak accuracy rate for basic addition and subtraction is... what was it, again?”
Sam Altman: leans into microphone “About 60%, sir.”
[Congress erupts in a sea of ‘oohs’ and ‘aahs’, as Sam Altman is carried away on top of the cheering crowd of Congresspeople wearing a crown of roses and a sash reading, “BEST INVESTMENT”]
It's making mistakes and failing to think abstractly at levels previously only achieved by humans, so it's only rational to expect it to take over the world in 5 years
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You dropped a few of these -> "0"
Sam Altman has been talking about planning to spend trillions on just the data centers, let alone everything else that goes into creating their slop machines.
Meanwhile, estimated cost of reaching global zero carbon emissions is just 17 trillion dollars.
try to hype up a dying industry which was a scam to begin with, to get MORE VC funds to stave off the billions they are going to lose in the future. they thought CRYPTO was the next big then, when that dint work it was AI.
Reignite three mile island reactors bro trust me bro
Gonna need at least three more zeros on the end of that number, boss. AGI is nowhere near viable with the tech we have now.
What are we going to call actual AI when AGI starts being bastardized by marketing the way "AI" was before it?
AGI. Fuck marketing.
It's simple, as soon as the Dyson Sphere is completed, we'll have a fully functional product.
How do we even know if AGI is achievable? I don't know anything about this topic but as far as I've heard AGI might actually just be impossible.
If you define it in a "artificial person/as smart as a human/can do anything a human can do" sort of way like I usually see, then yes, we know that it is possible, because if it were impossible for a system with human-equivalent capabilities to exist, than humans couldn't exist, and well, we clearly do. That being said, that doesn't mean that all we need to do to make one is to just feed more and more data into our existing AI tech.
I mean when you put it like that it makes a lot more sense, but even that requires a sort of technology to accurately build a brain that works the same way a human brain does. Maybe AGI can be built but we have none of the resources to synthesize a human brain?
If nothing else, it seems reasonable to assume that a computer could run a program that does all the important things 1 neuron does, so from there it's "just" a matter of scaling to human brain quantities of neurons and recreating enough of the training that evolution and childhood provide to humans. But that's the insanely inefficient way to do it, like trying to invent a clockwork ox to pull your plow instead of a tractor. It'd be pretty surprising if we couldn't find the tractor version of artificial intelligence before getting an actual digital brain patterned directly off of biology to do it.
There's no definition of 'human intelligence' in the first place.
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