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[-] xkforce@lemmy.world 166 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The party of "patriotism" everyone. This is their guy... the same guy whose defense for trying to overthrow the government and install himself as dictator is "I never said I swore an oath to uphold the constitution"

[-] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 51 points 11 months ago

Not just that, but the ones for whom the freedoms enshrined in the Constitution are the beginning, middle, and end of their entire personal identity. They have a section of the Constitution tatooed on their fucking bodies, and they still support a man who would just as soon use the damned thing as toilet paper.

[-] lingh0e@sh.itjust.works 25 points 11 months ago

If Trump can argue the technicality that he never specifically said "support", we can argue ths technicality that the 2nd doesn't specifically say "guns".

[-] TechyDad@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

It says the right to "bear arms." So if I want to graft a pair of cybernetically enhanced black bear arms to my body, I should have the right to do so! (As part of a well organized Bear Arm Militia, of course.)

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[-] TurboDiesel@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Anyone who makes one thing^TM^ their entire raison d'etre is always a little... let's go with off for politeness. But the 2^nd^ Amendment ones are just walking red flags.

[-] kometes@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Can penis size be negative?

[-] ma11en@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago
[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Yeah but the guys who have that problem tend to be way less insecure than this guy

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[-] Gork@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The Second Amendment is so awkwardly worded. You can tell it was initially drafted, then the middle part of the sentence (third line on that guy's back) added in later.

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 9 points 11 months ago

The us right wing is entirely the "there must be outgroups to bind and in groups to protect" mindset. Everything else is after the fact justification.

[-] orclev@lemmy.world 117 points 11 months ago

The presidential oath of office that Trump was required to recite during the swearing in ceremony:

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

[-] radix@lemmy.world 92 points 11 months ago

It dOeSn'T sAy "sUpPoRt"!!1! ChEcKmAtE lIbS!!

(I feel dirty now)

[-] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 72 points 11 months ago

That's literally the legal defence they are using.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 38 points 11 months ago

The “I’m not touching you” defense.

[-] TurboDiesel@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

See also the, "We'rE NoT A DeMoCrAcY" set.

[-] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The 2nd amendment says nothing about guns/firearms. It was written as arms. It specifically talks about a militia and being able to keep things. It also says that we have the right to obtain the arms of bears (bear arms). There is literally no precedent to allow anyone have a gun.

It’s pretty explicit in what they wanted.

/s

This is why trying to argue based on literal words, and not intent, is dumb.

[-] radix@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Article I, Section 8 of the US Constitution defines the powers of Congress, including:

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

According to the words of the Constitution, Congress can't appropriate any money to the Air Force.

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[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

But didn't you see he had his fingers crossed? That means he doesn't have to do it!

[-] orclev@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago

They're trying to play semantic games and claim that supporting is not the same thing is preserving, protecting, and defending. It's a laughably bad argument and hopefully it gets struck down pretty much immediately.

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[-] TechyDad@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

"Preserve, protect, and defend, but not support. Checkmate liberals!!!"

  • Some Random Attorney Trump Dug Up From the Bottom Of The Barrel
[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 89 points 11 months ago

What a piece of shit. How can anyone support this trash?

[-] Krackalot@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 11 months ago

Because they too are pieces of shit.

[-] zzzzz@sh.itjust.works 15 points 11 months ago

Or dumb. Or not paying attention. Or some combination of the above.

[-] dbilitated@aussie.zone 8 points 11 months ago

they're paying attention to propaganda

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[-] rbhfd@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

Imagine being ~~brainwashed~~ bombarded on a daily basis with messages of how leftist will take over your country and how Trump will save them

[-] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

I am. Still see through it

[-] HLMenckenFan@lemmy.world 86 points 11 months ago

"The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots." - H. L. Mencken

[-] bender223@lemmy.today 65 points 11 months ago

wait, so does that mean he was never actually president?

[-] ExLisper@linux.community 22 points 11 months ago

I guess his supreme court nomination are void then. Nice.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Worse than that, he wants the job again, and he's on his way to being the Republican nominee.

[-] tryagain@lemmy.ml 15 points 11 months ago

He's going to win and he's going to finish the job of dismantling the United States of America. He's quite open about it.

[-] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Apparently the oath that military folks take actually has the word "support" in it, but the one the president takes says "preserve, protect and defend."

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[-] spittingimage@lemmy.world 60 points 11 months ago

Donald Trump... the sovereign citizen of world leaders.

[-] HLMenckenFan@lemmy.world 44 points 11 months ago
[-] Rockyrikoko@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago

No, he is bought by foreign influence and has discovered a way to monetize dismantling the United States

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[-] Jax@sh.itjust.works 40 points 11 months ago

When are we going to collectively decide to excise the cancer that is Christian Conservatism in the U.S.?

[-] warmaster@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

All of these morons have happened before and all of these morons will happen again.

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[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Hopefully soon. Republicans have been losing big because of abortion, and they're incapable of controlling the narrative because the lunatics are running the asylum.

Generational change was happening slowly, and then the Republican conspiracy theories with COVID accelerated it as elderly red voters died who could otherwise lived. Abortion being overturned has lit a fire in young people to actually get to the polls too. Going all in on Trump has also irreparably tainted the party for upper middle class who'd otherwise vote for him.

I don't know if the history books will say it was 2020, 2022, 2024, or 2028, but I'm very hopeful that sometime this decade will be when American conservativism is rendered unviable. We just need one more big push.

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[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 11 months ago

His supporters should be really mad about this. Generally they are the ones that invoke the Constitution anytime their lifestyle is inconvenienced.

[-] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

Yeah but everything they do and say is in bad faith.

[-] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago

Lock him up! Lock him up! Lock him up!

[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca 23 points 11 months ago

When “Donald Trump says….”

What follows is absolute bullshit.

[-] IWantToFuckSpez@kbin.social 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

And Donald Trump said ….

Nothing, you idiots, Donald Trump’s dead, he’s locked in my basement.

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[-] TechyDad@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Very rarely, Trump is right accidentally. For example, recently he said that the true threat to America is coming from within. He meant the left, but he was accidentally right. The real threat is coming from within the US. To see it, though, Trump just needs to look in a mirror or look at the people attending his rallies.

[-] TheJims@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

His personality disorders renders him incapable of supporting the Constitution.

[-] xc2215x@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Trump feels he is more important than it.

[-] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

He probably had his fingers crossed and his ears stuffed with gold cheese puffs

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[-] AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Ever think about how if Bill Clinton had called the mother of a recently KIA marine without knowing his name we would still be hearing about it?

I haven't heard about that since the month it happened.

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[-] wildcardology@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

I can't wait for the mental gymnastics MAGA people will do when they get asked about this.

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