From my perspective, Digg and Reddit are the same thing. Anti-user platforms run by pro-corruption, pro-crime oligarchs (and wannabes).
I will note that Kevin Rose's previous project was an out and out scam; an NFT pump and dump.
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From my perspective, Digg and Reddit are the same thing. Anti-user platforms run by pro-corruption, pro-crime oligarchs (and wannabes).
I will note that Kevin Rose's previous project was an out and out scam; an NFT pump and dump.
Yes, the same way Bluesky and Twitter are the same, or close enough.
What might happen is still a migration of users from Reddit to Digg, but I guess we can't really expect a lot of people joining Lemmy/Mbin/Piefed
agreed. hard pass.
I left Digg for Reddit back in the day. Then I left Reddit for Lemmy. Now, I'm still not going back because I learned my lesson.
Is Digg committing itself to the concept of community moderation by volunteers with large amounts of autonomy, or is it going down an AI-route?
I'm sure we can guess correctly at this one.
There's at least an AI tl:dr below each post, not sure about the moderation.
To me, if it doesn't have the basic users running communities foundation of Reddit and the Fediverse - it just isn't a Reddit alternative. Communities would be more like hashtags.
Sidebar of a community
I guess they plan to have user-managed communities later, otherwise indeed they wouldn't be able to compete with Reddit
Having a "Top Contributors" section on the sidebar is already putting up red flags to me, to be honest.
I find the badges on reddit (I still use it for some niche gaming communities and r/tycoon) very annoying. We want organic engagement, not a skinner box.
The operators basically said they want AI to do moderation because that's the boring and shitty part of being a volunteer. They would rather have community volunteers focus on building the community.
It's nice that you like it. I'm just fine with the things they are on lemmy and mastodon. I see no need for another US corporation to control and censor the internet discourse.
See ya!
I never said I liked it, and I don't plan to leave the Fediverse.
Same. Frankly it's also about the users. I appreciate people who are willing to put a little effort in, and invest some treasured and limited mental bandwidth understanding how federation works in order to join the community and share their thoughts. A little bit of barrier to entry is a feature, not a bug as far as I'm concerned. Yes it's going to keep the mainstream away, but on the plus side, it also keeps the mainstream away.
Edit: Since we're on Fedigrow, I want to clarify that I still want to grow the Fediverse (of course) but to me it's about attracting the best kind of people to the conversations here, not about lowering ourselves to the lowest common denominator or being the only option for people to turn to.
If Digg is making a comeback then it really has gone full circle.
At least blue sky is open/decentralized. Digg is just yet another centralized alternative
If there's one thing we've learned about the Reddit API fiasco, and the Twitter - Mastodon - Bluesky dynamics, is that the vast majority of users don't really care about federation.
If Digg is a less shitty Reddit, a lot of people will probably move there.
True, but at least bluesky can be bridged to mastodon.
If Digg aren't completely stupid, they should have an API for third party apps at launch, which would allow replication as well
Also true, but it wouldn't be as open as bluesky's.
I don't trust it. Mostly because it's under control of Kevin Rose (OG Digg co-founder) and Alexis Ohanian (OG reddit co-founder), both of whom sold out of their original companies. Fair enough, it at least means they have some idea of what they're doing (at least for 2005), but it also means they're going to sell out again sometime. I'm tired finding "new home"s, tired of settling in and getting used to new interfaces, lingo and ways things happen, tired of chasing down new communities, identifying good and bad actors, and establishing ban and follow lists. I'm old and I'm grumpy and I'm tired of this shit.
If joined up I'd have gone full circle
Digg is still a thing?
It went away, became a blog-spam site for a bit and now is coming back.
Correction, it would be reddit's Threads
Just joined Lemmy this month. Decent so far.
I think I'll try Mbin/Pieced soon. Or is that not necessary?
You have access to communities on Piefed/Mbin via Lemmy, but there are additional tools on Piefed (and Mbin) that you might like.
interface is cleaner than Reddit
Ever heard about something called „Frontends”?
Yeah and Reddit killed their API and all third party apps. That's how I got here.
I'm not a native speaker, is "interface" incorrect in this context?
The default interface, yes
But since just about everything has an API, including reddit, its pretty nonsensical to make it an argument, since you can use Any frontend or app for them.
Isn't Reddit making their API paid why most of the people came here?
I doubt we'll see the same kind of exodus to this like what happened with Bluesky and Twitter*. Reddit, for all its faults, doesn't have an Elon Musk at the helm which was a major push factor for both masto and bsky adoption.
* Also it should be pointed out that Bsky has ~10 million MAU while Twitter still has ~350 million, so the exodus wasn't even that large.
I could see it hitting more ppl than here at least, marketing and ads alone, and ofc some ppl find signing up here, finding an app, etc. confusing while there is obvious with just one app and site
Good point about Musk, let's see how it goes
- Also it should be pointed out that Bsky has ~10 million MAU while Twitter still has ~350 million, so the exodus wasn’t even that large.
Network effect is at play, but still impressive compared to Mastodon numbers
Nah. The Bluesky of Reddit will be whatever Kn0thing/Alexis Ohanian is cooking.