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TIL the famous Socrates quote about children being disrespectful and having bad manners was actually a fabrication written by a Canadian college student in 1907 (quoteinvestigator.com)

submitted 2 weeks ago by cm0002@lemmy.world to c/til@lemmy.ca

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

There is a legitimate quote from Plato in the Socratic dialogs that is relevant though...

Especially in this context:

Social media is RUINING OUR CHILDREN!
Video Games are RUINING OUR CHILDREN!
Rock and Roll is RUINING OUR CHILDREN!
Dungeons and Dragons is RUINING OUR CHILDREN!
Comic Books are RUINING OUR CHILDREN!
Jazz is RUINING OUR CHILDREN!
. . .
"they will appear to have condemned you rightly, for whose is a corrupter of the laws will appear in all likelihood to be a corrupter of youths and weak-minded men." Plato - Crito

[–] Bea@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

For people not following, he was saying that if he was the corrupter of youths and weak-minded men, then everyone else must be improvers. Because not everyone else are improvers (logically speaking in this argument), it means many people were responsible for the corruption and he alone is not responsible.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The first statement isn't valid

[–] Bea@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He was on trial.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 0 points 2 weeks ago

Still invalid

[–] Subscript5676@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago

I remember that at one point, someone wrote this when books started becoming more accessible:

Books are RUINING OUR CHILDREN!

Just controlling parents wanting to dictate their children’s way of life since time immemorial. It’s an eternal battle.

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

[–] CkrnkFrnchMn@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

Fabricated history...getting harder and harder to find truth out there if not impossible :(