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Majority sees decline of union membership as bad for US and working people (www.pewresearch.org)

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[–] Drewmeister@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I'm in a union, and I get anti-union mail once or twice a month from the "Freedom Foundation" telling me I can stop paying my dues but still reap the benefits that my union has fought for. Which is true until the union loses enough power that they aren't effective. I hate those fuckers so much.

Glad to hear that most people aren't falling for their bullshit.

E: like they throw out numbers like, "this is how much more money you'd have every year if you stopped paying." yeah, but the only reason I get yearly inflation-based raises is because of my union. My union wants me to have money, and literally everyone else wants me to have none.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I really wish we had enforceable laws against bold faced lies like these. There really should be penalties for bad faith arguments and manipulation.

[–] Drewmeister@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Well, they aren't lying. It's true that I'd still get all my union benefits if I stopped paying into it.* I'm sure I work with people who don't pay, and they probably feel like they're smarter than the rest of us. The mailers just conveniently leave out the context that what I pay into the union has been returned tenfold by their actions, and to hurt the union is to ultimately hurt myself.

* the reason this is true is because a law exists that says that unions cannot require represented employees to pay into them, but the contracts agreed to by the union affect positions, not people, so they still benefit.

[–] SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

Even 38% of people falling for this shit is too damn high.

[–] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

Both my parents were union (different unions though), I've had a union job, sibling currently has a union job, and fuck yes to unions.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago

That's by design. Over time worker protection laws have been passed, thus reducing the need for protection from greedy bosses...is what I would say if it actually happened.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

No crap. But nobody’s ready to deal with modern day Pinkertons.