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[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 60 points 5 days ago (4 children)

In reality the Dems will do none of those things though. They won't nationalize anything because they are neoliberals. They won't fully defund ICE because they want racists to vote for them too. They'll just reduce the budget and maybe stop putting kids in cages. They won't shut down funding for the exec branch because they'll say it is "irresponsible".

More things they'll never do:

  • Demilitarise and defund the police
  • Provide free public healthcare and education for all
  • Raise taxes on billionaires
  • Stop mass surveillance programs
  • Reform the electoral system to allow proportional representation
  • Properly regulate and tax corporations
  • Stop providing weapons to their genocidal allies

I'd love to be proved wrong, but I'm not gonna get my hopes up.

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 128 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (4 children)

There is nothing in the middle of the road but yellow lines and dead armadillos

Based based based based based

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[–] Bonus@lemmy.world 104 points 6 days ago

That's exactly what needs to be done. For starters.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 93 points 6 days ago (19 children)

Sometimes, I feel regret that Romney didn't beat Obama. Not because Romney would have been a better president. Just because of the timing, if Romney had won, then maybe Trump would never have become president, or at least he'd have been president later. Romney's still a Republican, so it would have sucked, but Trump is fucking poison.

[–] potatopotato@sh.itjust.works 54 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That's an interesting thought... I can't help but feel like it would have just delayed an inevitable outcome though, potentially allowing the underlying political movement even more time to grow and fester. It's unknowable, but I feel like we'll be pondering questions like that for a long time.

[–] logicbomb@lemmy.world 32 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It seems like logically, we should feel lucky to have such an incompetent campy comic book villain con man as the face of their ridiculous movement. But it doesn't feel like that at the time.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 19 points 6 days ago

I would feel "lucky" if the dipship's popularity dropped to less than 10% support by the end of 2020 and never shown his face in public ever since. But now, this is a nightmare.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Now imagine how different our country would be if Gore won...

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

"If we counted Gore's win"

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With all the nonsense about "fiscal conservatives", people forget that the last administration to balance the budget was Clinton/Gore - and not only was the budget balanced, it actually had a fucking surplus. One of the big debate points going into the 2000 election cycle was what to do with this surplus. Naturally enough the surplus went towards tax cuts for the rich and now we're fucking $35 trillion dollars in debt.

Someone will weigh in here with "deficits don't matter" and "the government can just print money if it needs it".

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[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 60 points 6 days ago (11 children)

if whoever is in charge next in the US does not burn down the white house as a symbol of starting over, I will be disappointed

besides, think of all the Russian spy equipment that's probably installed in there now

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 28 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Leave the white house. Burn down Mar a Lago

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago

WhyNotBoth.jpg

[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago

Anything short of a full overhaul of every IT system that DOGE every glanced at is 100% necessary.

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[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 57 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (19 children)

Starlink shouldn't exist. it's unnecessary , we have better options... make internet a utility and force the companies we already gave millions to, to actually modernize infostructure and bring internet to undeserved locations that still have 56k

[–] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 37 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Starlink should 100% exist in some form or another, but it replacing terrestrial landline internet is madness. We can and should absolutely do both things.

[–] Joeffect@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago (1 children)

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/starlink-astronomers-light-pollution-standoff-120000884.html?guccounter=1

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_debris

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kessler_syndrome

I disagree that we should haphazardly be putting more stuff into space than needed... when we have alternatives...

Just because we can doesn't mean we should...

[–] osaerisxero@kbin.melroy.org 17 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Kessler syndrome doesn't apply because the orbits are too low to be stable. They have a finite shelf life before they deorbit, after which they'll burn in the atmosphere. Admittedly, the light pollution is a real problem, but one which should be solved by building more orbital telescopes, not by avoiding building orbital infrastructure.

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[–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Starlink should have been a global effort, so that we didn't end up with dozens of private companies all vying to put thousands of satellites into orbit.

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[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 20 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Running fiber to low density areas is expensive but there's no way it can be as expensive as launching all those satellites.

Even if it is, the ROI has got to be way worse for satellites.

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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 53 points 6 days ago (3 children)

How is he allowed to remove the secret service protection from the former vice president?

What?

[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 44 points 6 days ago (3 children)

The former VP actually only gets 6 months of protection by default. Beyond that it needs to be actively extended, which Trump didn't do.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 50 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

my understanding was that biden did extend it for a further year. trump actively cancelled that.

it wasnt just him letting it lapse, it was a move of spite

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago

To be more accurate, he actively cancelled an extension granted by a previous executive order.

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[–] qfe0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 6 days ago

There was an order in the previous administration to extend protection for extra time. This administration just cancelled the extension.

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[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

correct analysis. Absolutely go down to their level. Weirdly enough, you will even take some of their voters away with that. Some of them don't care that much about the words, just the way they are spoken.

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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Nationalize the assets of every billionaire who bought a cabinet position to destroy the government agencies that were relating their businesses. 100% tax on wealth over $100 million. Reform the judiciary. Every citizen has the absolute right to vote with equal access to the ballot box. Eliminate the electoral college. Electoral boundaries drawn by an independent, non-partisan agency. All electoral boundaries must be a maximum five sides polygon except where they follow a state border. Ban private schools and fully fund science and fact based public education. Eliminate health insurance companies and nationalize healthcare. No company may pay bonuses or dividends unless every employee earns a living wage with full benefits. Make companies pay the same wages and benefits to part time employees that they do full time employees. Executive wages must be tied to the average wage of employees and the lowest wage paid to any employee (including contractors and employees of suppliers.) Dissolve media conglomerates and ban misinformation presented as news. Free speech does not include hate speech. Your religious rights and at the end of your nose. You have no say in what other people do with their bodies. What happens in other people's bedrooms is none of your business. Make churches pay taxes like every other business. Make the national minimum wage a living wage. Make companies responsible for their pollution and recycling their products. Absolute right to repair. Stop companies from telling you what you can do with devices you own. GDPR for all! Provide mandatory anti-conspiratorial thinking training for everyone. Teach rational thought from day 1 in kindergarten through graduate school.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 35 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Day 1 should be to Fire everyone even remotely related to trump. Then take trumps entire cabinet to a CIA black site. Then start going after the treasonous media figures. Then day 2 you can start fixing things.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (9 children)

He said when they take the house. In that hypothetical, they would still be moderately impotent with regards to what you describe, they'd need 2/3 of Senate too.

This is the most optimistic plausible scenario for 2027, not 2029.

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[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Nationalising Starlink and Spacex are a great idea, why not Tesla as well? It’s already HEAVILY propped up by government spending. Do it at gunpoint so we don’t have to pay Elon anything at all

[–] smeenz@lemmy.nz 7 points 5 days ago

Isn't the correct process to make a flippant post offering to buy the whole thing on twitter ?

[–] Genius@lemmy.zip 22 points 6 days ago (28 children)

Who uses Twitter anymore that isn't a Nazi?

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago (18 children)

The current MAGA Republicans make neoconservatives look like angels. The neoconservatives are lesser evil, but it doesn't exonerate them from the Bush-era warcrimes.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 19 points 6 days ago

Remember when the new Democratic President prosecuted the Bush-era war crimes?

Me neither.

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[–] rigatti@lemmy.world 28 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Could they even do any of that with just the House? They won't do it anyway, but could they?

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 22 points 6 days ago

At this point it doesn't even really matter, it's just a question of whether anyone would step up to stop them. "The Rules" in general have already been well and truly trod upon and I'm not sure we make it out the other side of this without some restructuring of them.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I would!

Rambling on Twitter makes money. And politicians have finally figured out they can get in on the rage influencer pie, too.

It’s super effective.

Ugh, I can’t wait for Twitter to enshittify so much it withers away.

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