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[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 45 points 1 week ago (15 children)

You're pissed about it? Visit here: https://opencollective.com/postmarketOS

IMHO that's our best shot. Totally Google free, mainstream Linux kernel.

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[–] Nikki@lemmy.blahaj.zone 44 points 1 week ago (3 children)

just installed lineageos with root because of this, so thanks Google i guess

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[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 43 points 1 week ago (3 children)

If they only cared about thwarting malware they could have just relied on code signing via public certificate authorities, like with binaries on Windows.

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[–] Zink@programming.dev 40 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I think I am just done with the whole concept of the convenient prepackaged tech product, and especially staying "connected" with them.

For example, I stopped wearing a smart watch this summer and it's been a positive. I was the type to wear it 23 hours a day and track my sleep with it and everything. It turns out that not instantly seeing every notification or knowing the exact minute of the day are not a big deal, sans are even good for me.

Part of what I've also done is use my phone a lot less and my linux desktop a lot more. I use it as a mobile communication device and not my computer for everything. I guess the next time I need to replace it I'll either get an iphone since everybody in my family has one, or I'll see where these wonderful Linux phone projects end up.

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[–] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 32 points 1 week ago (3 children)

How does this affect "second-party" apps (i.e. apps you have created yourself)? Are you still allowed to go to Android studio, make an APK, transfer it to your own phone, and install that app? If no, this spells the death of experimental indie developers on Android.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

yes. from what I understand, you will get a developer key from Google, and then you will sign your APK with your key.

you'll still be able to sideload apps that have been signed with developer keys. the main point here is that Google is forcing the developer to identify themselves.

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[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 30 points 1 week ago (5 children)

(non-Android) Linux phones aren't really ready for daily driving even for relatively advanced users - but it looks like we're gonna have to deal with it anyhow

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[–] F_OFF_Reddit@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (8 children)

So yeah we'll do a decentralized Linux phone of sorts, if Google is going full 3rd Reich with Android we'll move to a Linux based OS phone.

Simple as that.

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[–] girthero@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Its like Microsoft and Google are teaming up to drive me closer to Linux.

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[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Will this kill FDroid ? I imagine yes since you have to install it from a download.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I haven't watched the video


I would generally rather have text form content


but if Rossman is announcing the same thing that I just read about elsewhere, it's not a removal of sideloading. It requires that a developer register and provide Google with personal information for Google to let them create packages. Assuming that Google is willing to let the F-Droid developers register an account (which I assume they have) and sign the F-Droid package, it should not restrict installation of the F-Droid package.

However, you wouldn't be able to use F-Droid to install any packages that didn't conform to Google's new requirements.

I doubt that the restriction is at the store app level, but at the package installation level. That is, I would expect that the F-Droid or Google's store app or whatever says "install this package" and the OS refuses.

https://developer.android.com/developer-verification

Starting in September 2026, Android will require all apps to be registered by verified developers in order to be installed on certified Android devices.

Step 1

Verify your identity

You will need to provide and verify your personal details, like your legal name, address, email address, and phone number.

If you're registering as an organization, you'll also need to provide a D-U-N-S number and verify your organization's website.

You may also need to upload official government ID.

Step 2

Register your apps

You'll need to prove you own your apps by providing your app package name and app signing keys.

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[–] pirate2377@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

TFW more than half of my phone's applications is getting thanos snapped and it's also carrier-locked

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[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

> be me
> buy new phone, chose android cause I can install anything on it
> get free iphone from work
> sell iphone on ebay cause I can install anything I want on my android
> google doesnt want me to install anything I want

Fuck me. I kept the wrong phone.

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[–] yukichigai@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 1 week ago
[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

$1000 USD for a mobile phone...no thanks.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

It used to be a pocket computer, now its just a mini-prison-cell.

If anyone is using currently using a flagship phone, when your phone dies and you need a replacement: consider just getting a cheap $100 android phone then spend the rest of the money you would've spent on a flagship on a portable PC instead

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[–] eelectricshock@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

My problem with this is when I now don't have freedom from surveillance in my country because I mainly use F-Droid to install my privacy conscious apps.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 week ago (7 children)

This is an android 16 feature, scheduled for sept 2026 "prerelease" and 2027 rollout. I expect/hope some phones will have a setting to disable "the security". If not, there is great opportunty for high end hardware linux first phones, with good android emulation software.

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[–] pfr@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I just hope that the Graphene devs continue to support the last supported versions of Android that allow installing apks.

I couldn't be happier with my P7 that has been running Graphene since day one. Zero Google. Zero problems

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[–] xnx@slrpnk.net 21 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Sideloading being so easy on iphones and now becoming very difficult on android. Wow

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