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[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Who could have known that a demigod as old as the world would be really powerful?

[–] Sunsofold 42 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Gee, it's almost like dragons are powerful, intelligent beings who are not to be trifled with and not just something to throw in front of a party because it's in the name.

[–] Archpawn@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (2 children)

The problem is that you're combining a creature known for being solitary and long-lived with the ability to cast 9th level spells, which are especially overpowered when given prep time.

If the dragons are even the slightest bit intelligent, their lairs will be peppered with Glyphs of Warding, tons of True Polymorphed golems, and a series of Simulacrums each copied from the last (thanks to Nystul's Magic Aura letting it count as humanoid). And since the spells don't involve spell slots, those Simulacrums can cast their own 9th level spells. If you somehow do manage to kill the dragon, it will just revive from one of the many Clones in the Demiplanes it set up.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Now I'm imagining all dragons just home-aloneing it deep inside a mountain.

[–] Sunsofold 4 points 4 days ago

Now you're thinking like a dragon.

[–] mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, metallic dragons are basically revered as minor gods in many instances. Those mfers are powerful, and they’re definitely not something that you throw at a low level party.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

All the more ridiculous that BG3 throws a silver dragon at you, almost right at the start.

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Where? I can only think of three instances of dragons that can be fought in the game none of which are silver.

Dragons I am aware of in the game:

Act 1 SpoilerRed Dragon by bridge near the mountain pass.

Act 3 SpoilersAnsur (undead bronze dragon) in the Wyrmway and the red Dragon during the final fight.

Do you mean durge? Durge is by default a white dragonborn which is a species not related to dragons in the forgotten realms.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Fascinating - witness missed the giant silver dragon behind the group of goblins.

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

Ah yes I forgot. Very cheeky our bardic friend.

[–] Ageroth@reddthat.com 46 points 5 days ago (3 children)

27 divided by 3 = 9
Wish spell once per day with no material components cost.

[–] Patches@ttrpg.network 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That dragon's name?

Shenron

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago

That's for the ritual casting of it via demanding to speak to the wish manager.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago (3 children)

New NPC idea, a dragon in human form. He lives in a magical playhouse full of creatures and guests, and casts a wish every single day just doing things for fun. A nearby king must personally bring cartoons to placate the dragon.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (3 children)

If you cast Wish to do stressful things there is a 1/3 chance you can't ever cast it again.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 8 points 5 days ago

For normal humanoid spellcasters who have to prepare and channel the spell energy that is foreign to them through their bodies, being such a strong spell it always carries the risk of backfiring going beyond the predetermined rules of its preparation.

nothing to say that is the case for dragons who can cast the spells innately.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 3 points 5 days ago

Good thing you can cast Simulacrum first, then use the simulacra to cast wish

[–] MouseKeyboard@ttrpg.network 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

However, the spell replication is already extremely powerful.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So... Pee-wee Herman was a dragon?

What I'm saying is, if you were a dragon, why wouldn't you choose to be Pee-Wee?

[–] DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca -3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Not once per day. Wish per charisma score modifier.

...that dragon in human form is casting it 5x a day.

[–] HeurtisticAlgorithm9@feddit.uk 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

"Each spell can be cast once per day"

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It’s D&D/any TTRPG, people misreading the rules and being scared of what isn’t evrn written is half the game! Bonus points if it’s a DM scared of players finding powerful things to do!

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Bonus points if you use necromancy to reanimate a drow's head merely as a whimsical red herring to keep guests from realising their peril. Long live Jambi!

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago

Feruza Balk's Dorothy was the sort of kid I wished I knew, growing up. It blindsided me completely when, later on, I learned she was the witch I wanted to spoon out my heart for. 🤪

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

And up to 7 more 9th level spells.

[–] dumples@midwest.social 4 points 5 days ago

If you boss dragon doesn't have time stop what is the point? Wish might be interesting but time stop in combat. Allowing it to recharge it's breath weapon and cast more spells and / or reposition. It's amazing