Fucking shrinkflation coming to electronics? Damn.
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What the fuck are we even doing at this point, as a society?
Dealing with knock on effects of a vindictive rapist trying to dismantle the global economy because he lost a popularity contest. Possibly at the behest of his russian handlers who want to fill the power gap.
And its gonna get a whole lot worse.
He's a symptom more than a cause. This isn't a recent development, just a recent escalation.
Transistors aren't getting cheaper, and the industry doesn't know how to deal with that. They're still in the mindset that Moore's Law has continued and will continue.
Then some clown convinced a bunch of people that he should be in charge of things, and he thought tariffs were a valid economic tool.
It's post-capitalism. Capitalism was only ever capable of bringing about merit based class mobility and prosperity temporarily before the sociopaths all trickled to the top over the decades and then shut that shit down. Neo-feudalism is the inevitable result, and that will eventually be dismantled by another working class revolution.
All economies have lifespans.
TBH I'd just say were seeing capitalism approach its final inevitable form.
That's essentially what I'm saying. It will always end up this way. Whether we call it late stage or post capitalism or just capitalism is irrelevant. It's a system that empowers sociopathy and sociopaths will always choose to enrich themselves at the expense of the country and it's citizens.
Yeah, wasn't disagreeing with you. Capitalism is a fundamentally unsustainable system, it's always going to eventually metastasise into a situation where a very few control almost all of the resources and the vast majority are desperate and impoverished. There might be meritocratic aspects to it in its early stages, but later on skills, talents and hard work won't get you shit unless you're rich.
the snake is eating its tail. but ppl won't rise up until they are literally dying.
so do what you can in your own life to mitigate these impacts on you and yours.
This is really insightful and very good advice
It fucking sucks how much this point illustrates the reality of this time. But it’s upsettingly accurate
This is just classic shrinkflation. Your bottle of shampoo comes in 32 ounces, they shrink it to 24 ounces without changing the price, then later they come out with 32 ounce bottles again with a higher price and a sticker that says, "Now with 33% more!" to make it seem like they're giving you so much shampoo; and then the cycle repeats.
No, it's not. Consoles (and technology in general) historically trend cheaper over time. Demand lowers, manufacturing cost lowers, newer tech releases, costs adjust to accommodate.
It's very abnormal that the current gen of consoles has not only not gotten cheaper yet, but has actually raisen in price. Like, very very abnormal.
Shrinkflation is a real thing, but historically it has nothing to do with consoles.
Source: https://www.neogaf.com/threads/how-low-will-the-price-of-ps4-go.1520289/
Source: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/06/are-the-ps4-and-xbox-one-really-that-expensive-historically/
Yes, but Moore's Law has broken down, and the things that used to allow for consoles to get cheaper over time, via new revisions, are not holding true anymore. So in lieu of those things, we've got classic shrinkflation.
Node shrinks drove a lot of this. Those have stopped being such large leaps.
Digital only with reduced space? What's the worst that could happen? 🤔
"Buy a bigger SSD!"
I guess just be glad they're not pulling a Microsoft where you'd have to buy a propriety NVMe drive.
🤔 The PS5 is 5 years old. I'll pass.
PlayStation only went downwards since the PlayStation 3 change my mind
I got the YLOD each time the system would engage the GPU. you're saying it went downward? That's pretty harsh.
PS3 was dope I loved it, but I had a huge problem when they removed the Other OS option.
All my homies hate having to pay for online services
Can’t; you are objectively correct.
Is 825GB a common size? Is there any logic to where that being picked came from?
Theory 1: Because it is cheaper to manufacture.
Theory 2: It is custom made for the PS5's internal 12 data channels, allowing for faster read/write than normal.
They ~~buy~~make storage with 12 channels, and 1 Toshiba NAND chip @ 512Gib per channel. This means each SSD has 768GiB of storage, or 825GB. The max read bandwidth is 9GB/s.
math: 512Gib x 12ch = 6144Gib / 8 = 768GiB
For reference the Samsung 990 Pro 1TB has 8 channels, and 2 Samsung NAND chips @ 500Gb per channel. This means each SSD has 932GiB of storage, or 1,000GB. The max read bandwidth is 7.5GB/s.
math: (converted to Gib for uniformity) 466Gib x 2 chips = 932Gib x 8ch = 7456Gib / 8 = 932GiB
Key:
Gib = gibibit, 1024⁴ bits
GiB = gibibyte, giga/binary/byte, 1024⁴ x 8 bits
GB = gigabyte, giga(decimal)byte, 1000⁴ x 8 bits
Extra: Storage-based measurements are largely measured in binary bytes but displayed with the decimal abbreviation, hence my C: drive here was sold as 500GB, equal to 465GiB but Windows shows it as 465GB
Shareholder value vs executive bonus calculation.
Nope.
512+256=768, 768+64=832... minus 7 for system data and general overhead maybe? That's my best guess, but that's a really odd size.
Assuming it's 768GiB, then it would be 824.6GB, not 832GB.
I'm waiting for PS1 but priced like PS5 and called remaster.
Fuck Sony for making Europe pay for America's stupidy. And Microsoft, I think they're doing it too.
I mean it honestly looks more like a corporation using US tariffs for cover than being directly affecting it like the article was speculating.
I mean we'll have a better idea when the price is released in the US markets since current US prices for PS 5s have already increased for the US only.
the ps5 is the console I used the least. And I bought the ps3 in the middle of the ps4's generation.