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[–] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 87 points 1 month ago (17 children)

Who the hell keeps buying nvidia? Stop it.

[–] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 77 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It’s the fucking AI tech bros

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 41 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Don't forget the crypto scammers.

[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago (4 children)

GPU hasnt been profitable to mine for many years now.

People just keep parroting anti-crypto talking points for years without actually knowing what'a going on

To be clear, 99% of the crypto space is a scam. But to blame them for GPU shortages and high prices is just misinformation

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

Not as many as you’d think. The 5000 series is not great for AI because they have like no VRAM, with respect to their price.

4x3090 or 3060 homelabs are the standard, heh.

[–] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Their data centre division is pulling in 41 billion revenue vs 4 billion consumer market.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidia-q2-profit-soars-59-021402431.html

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah. What does that have to do with home setups? No one is putting an H200 or L40 in their homelab.

[–] zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Does the original title mention home setups?

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It mentions desktop GPUs, which are not part of this market cap survey.

Basically I don't see what the server market has to do with desktop dGPU market share. Why did you bring that up?

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[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

The same people buying Intel and Microsoft.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Nvidia is the only real option for AI work. Before Trump lifted the really restrictive ban on GPUs to china they had to smuggle in GPUs from the US, and if you're Joe Schmo the only GPUs you can really buy are gaming ones. That's why the 5090 has been selling so well despite it being 2k and not all that much better than the 4090 in gaming.

Also AMD has no high end GPUs, and Intel barely has a mid range GPU.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

To be fair, AMD is trying as hard as they can to not be appealing there. They inexplicably participate in the VRAM cartel when… they have no incentive to.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

My theory is that they're just scared to annoy Nvidia too much. If they priced their GPUs so as to really increase their market share, Nvidia might retaliate. And Nvidia definitely has the deeper pockets. AMD has no chance to win a price war.

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[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This suggests AMD has comparable GPUs, in some cases better, some cases worse. People seeking diminishing return gains will never be happy. https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/nvidia-vs-amd/

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That article is a year old and is missing the latest generation of cards. Neither AMD nor Nvidia produce those GPUs anymore. AMDs best GPU from their 9000 series competes with Nvidias 5070/5070ti. The 5090 and 5080 are unmatched.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Kind of my point, these were high end and still usable by 95% of people. Everyone is chasing 1% gains for twice the price. I have an new RTX via work equipment for rendering, I play games on the side but that RTX dosnt really make the gameplay that much better. It looks great with the shine on metal, or water reflections, but when totally immersed in game play that stuff is wasted

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[–] lemonySplit@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Meanwhile framework's new AMD offering has nvidia slop in it. Just why. We want AMD. Give us AMD.

[–] notthebees@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago

They did. There's just no new amd mobile gpus. Like I think they only have 100 watt tdp or Max cooling to work with and the 7700S is the fastest amd mobile gpu currently.

If amd makes a new mobile gpu, framework will probably make it into a module.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 5 points 1 month ago

They need dlss otherwise the triple a games they love so much wont reach 30fps!!

[–] brb@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Marthirial@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

At the end of the day I think it is this simple. CUDA works and developers use it so users get a tangible benefit.

AMD comes up with a better version of CUDA and you have the disruption needed to compete.

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago

I'm not sure that would even help that much, since tools out there already support CUDA, and even if AMD had a better version it would still require everyone to update apps to support it.

[–] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

The vast majority of consumers do not watch or read reviews. They walk into a Best Buy or whatever retailer and grab the box that says GeForce that has the biggest number within their budget. LTT even did a breakdown at some point that showed how even their most watched reviews have little to no impact on sales numbers. Nvidia has the mind share. In a lot of people's minds GeForce = Graphics. And I say all that as someone who is currently on a Radeon 7900XTX. I'd be sad to see AMD and Intel quit the dGPU space, but I wouldn't be surprised.

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[–] network_switch@lemmy.ml 69 points 1 month ago (1 children)

AMD seems to be doing fine, Nvidia just doing finer. If this was 10 years ago, it'd be a lot more concerning but now AMD has a healthy home and server CPU business and GPU server business and they're the standard for handheld PCs. Along with consoles, that'll keep FSR relevant and their server stuff will keep funding for UDNA. Samsung uses AMD GPUs for their Exynos chips and that sounds like it may make it's flagship return with the next Galaxy phones. They're not drowning

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ehh, 5% market share is not fine.

AMD’s server GPU division is not fine, either, so don’t bet on that saving them.

AMD/Intel graphics divisions need R&D money from sales to keep up, and if this keeps up, they’re gonna drop out of dGPUs and stick to integrated graphics (which Intel is already at extremely severe risk of doing).

[–] Brotha_Jaufrey@lemmy.world 60 points 1 month ago (5 children)

IMO there’s zero reason to buy an nvidia gpu if there’s a similarly performing amd card because the price will just be better.

[–] Garry@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Amd promised a msrp of 600 for the 9070xt, it rarely goes below 750. All amd had to do was stick to their prices and have ample stock. Amd is satisfied with second place

[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It fells between 5070 Ti and 5080 while still being cheaper than 5070 Ti.

[–] Garry@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

5070 ti has come down to its normal price. You can find listings for $750. 9070 xt is better in some games than the 5070 ti in terms of raw raster. When it comes to upscaling, efficiency,and ray tracing. The 5070 ti is better.

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[–] Luffy879@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

„The Market” is not a good measure. Hell, its not even a measure at all. No consumer is able to pull any good info from this article.

Its the equivalent of „How much money has been spent of products by company xy”, completely disregarding if the products sold are even competing with each other, let alone if the production of one company is even trying to sell at that scale

Now regarding the article: they are not differentiating between enterprise and personal grade products. Of course Intel is non existent in Enterprise GPU sales, because they don't even sell fucking Enterprise GPUs. Same with amd.

This is like comparing a local steel working company with weckerle machines who mostly makes industry Make-up equipment (out of steel) and saying that Weckerle dominates the Market

Or like saying „Gamers Beware: Pre-built PCs are dominating the market”, then showing a study about „ Computing devices”, and showing that the 2 main sources are Enterprise buying bulk and NUCs, both of which have nothing to do with what the article is implying in the first place, since, and say this with me

  • Enterprise devices are completely different from consumer devices, both in terms of price and in volume, and if compared directly (in the middle of an economic crisis) of course an Enterprise is going to spend way more money on one category.
[–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Y'all have pre-built phones? And even laptops? Or car computers??
Weirdos.

/s

But def, this type of info is at best for the investors (and even then just unstructured info about market shares), not consumers.

[–] thisNotMyName@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

Intel cards are awesome in a homeserver for media transcoding. Super cheap, super capable, power saving compared to other cards with the features. And although Intel has become a shitty company, I'd really like to see more competition on the gpu market

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

I don’t get this.

Well, if this includes laptops, I get that. Just try to find a dGPU laptop with AMD or Arc these days.


…But in desktops, everyone seems to complain about Nvidia pricing, yet no one is touching Battlemage or the 9000 series? Why? For gaming specifically, they seem pretty great in their price brackets.

Maybe prebuilts are overshadowing that too?

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

But in desktops, everyone seems to complain about Nvidia pricing, yet no one is touching Battlemage or the 9000 series? Why?

Its always been this way: they want AMD and Intel to compete so Nvidia gets cheaper, not that they will ever buy AMD or Intel. Gamers seem to be the laziest, most easily influenced consumer sector ever.

[–] notthebees@reddthat.com 3 points 1 month ago

People who say buy Intel and amd probably either did or will when they upgrade, which is probably not anytime soon with the way everything seems to be going.

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[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago

I’m doing my part. I picked up an Arc B580.

[–] pycorax@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We've come to a point where PC gaming is so mainstream that the average PC gamer likely doesn't even know that AMD makes GPUs. They'll just complain about the prices and then pay for Nvidia directly or indirectly via prebuilts.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I buy this.

And I can’t really blame people for not diving into components and wanting stuff to just… Work.

No one (on average) knows their graphics card off the top of their head.

[–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I know it's not indicative of the industry as a whole, but the Steam hardware survey has Nvidia at 75%. So while they're still selling strong, as others have indicated, I'm not confident they're getting used for gaming.

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[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

TIL there's a lot of people who don't know what a dGPU is in here

[–] FlembleFabber@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago

Thanks for explaining

[–] sonalder@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago

That is concerning

[–] ABetterTomorrow@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

GTX 1080 Ti strong here lol

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[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

AMD needs better answers on the HPC software side.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (5 children)

They need dGPUs worth buying for HPC, other than servers that cost more than a house, so devs will actually target them.

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[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Rocking an R9 280 atm 👍

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