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cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/36925956

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[–] ech@lemmy.ca 52 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (8 children)

*It's no longer running*

Friendly alert that it's currently Bandcamp Friday - one full day that the site gives 100% of purchases to the artists. It's a good way to support small artists and build up a personal collection.

[–] Saurok@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The company that currently owns Bandcamp laid off all of the union bargaining team members when they acquired Bandcamp, or rather, didn't extend an offer of employment to all of them which is effectively a layoff or firing. Just adding on to your comment so people are more aware, in case they need extra convincing to only buy from Bandcamp on that day (or preferably not at all). Purchase directly from artists whenever possible. Pretty sure those workers who were fired are still seeking resolution, and I don't think Songtradr, the company that acquired Bandcamp, ever recognized the union even though they voted yes in their vote to unionize with OPEIU months before the acquisition. Go here for more info.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This right here is one of many reasons why you should download your purchases. Protect your collection from the inherent instability of capitalism.

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[–] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemmy.zip 37 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Is there a "torrenting for absolute tech illiterate morons" guide out there?

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 43 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (11 children)

The absolute basics:

  1. Install qbittorrent
  2. Install a VPN and run it so that all your Internet traffic goes down it
  3. Open a Web browser and search for top torrent sites 2025. There are articles with lists of the big ones.
  4. Go to a torrent site and search for what you want.
  5. Download the .torrent file and open it in qbittorrent OR copy the magnet link and paste that into qbit torrent. Either will start your download.

Always use the VPN when searching and downloading.

There are lots of steps to make it more convenient - things like using a Virutal machine so the vpn and torrent do their thing while you do whatever else you want on your PC, or setting up a docker Servarr stack to make things more convenient, or setting up a Raspberry pi / other device as a servarr stack. But for the basics all you need is a torrent client, a VPN and a Web browser.

All the extra advanced stuff is just quality of life, like being able to leave it downloading securely 24hours a day or organising your downloads better.

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 3 points 3 weeks ago

PSA: you may not need a VPN at all, depending on your country or your ISP.

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[–] bigb@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Start out simple and stick with a basic BitTorrent client. Figure out where you want to download from and get a torrent client configured. I use an ISP that frowns upon piracy so here's a quick overview:

  1. Look for public torrent sites. I'm out of this game so I don't have any suggestions.
  2. Research private torrent trackers. I don't think I can provide any help with this, but there are other corners of Lemmy who can.
  3. Find a VPN. Everyone has thoughts on this and Proton VPN is the one I'm currently using.
  4. Pick a torrent client. I'd recommend qBittorrent myself.
  5. Configure your VPN to include your BT traffic.

If/when you want to try Lidarr, you'll be much better off knowing the basics of BitTorrent because *arr software is confusing in its own regard. Lidarr is just a tool to organize your music library folders and also automatically queue downloads. It is not a requirement to enjoy downloading music.

Usenet and soulseek are other alternatives.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 6 points 3 weeks ago

For music, soulseek is a great resource too

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[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

My issue is discovery. I'll take a look at what they've done here, but ive never been able to implement a reliable discovery process into my workflow. I still use local music, but my wife is not going to switch until I get at least some reliable and effective discovery built.

[–] SpatchyIsOnline@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I scrobble all my navidrome activity to listenbrainz, which gives a weekly playlist of recommendations. You might have to wait a few weeks before it can establish your tastes depending on how much music you play.

[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

But I need to get those recommendations to automatically populate into playlist in my music app so its all in one place. Thats the challenge. Providing a close to as good service as Spotify.

[–] Darohan@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 weeks ago

This post from the self-hosted community is probably what you're looking for, then

[–] Dry_Monk@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The thing that flipped it for me was realizing the Spotify algorithm isn't actually about discovering new music, it's about driving profit. Idealism aside, what that tactically means for music discovery is the recommendations are based primarily around what they want to play, and then secondarily around what you might like.

It means that you're only discovering a subset of music you might like that is profitable to Spotify and their big record label partners.

After realizing that, the Spotify algorithm lost a lot of interest for me. Now I use SomaFM to discover new music. They do curated music channels in a bunch of different genres, and I find that the DJs have a similar taste to mine, so I hear a good amount of new music I'm into.

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[–] axx@slrpnk.net 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

No, you don't need that. You want it because it's convenient and we live in a consumerist society where everything "needs" to be "frictionless". Intentionally clicking on an artist's bandcamp page to listen to a recommendation is fine. It's a lot easier than mail order or taking the bus to the record store to buy a copy.

I get what you're saying, but we need to question the parameters of the challenges more often.

[–] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I didn't say i needed it personally, I need it if I'm going to get my family members to drop Spotify for my service.

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[–] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 3 points 3 weeks ago

This is the way

[–] vhstape@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 3 weeks ago

If you’re fortunate enough to live near a well-funded library, you can peruse their new arrivals section for CDs. That’s how I discover new artists

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[–] Griffus@lemmy.zip 14 points 3 weeks ago

I simply just installed Metrolist on my phone.

100 % piracy robbing musicians, but more importantly, robbing Google while circumventing Spotify altogether.

[–] pressedhams@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Have they fixed the issues with Lidarr yet?

[–] dmention7@midwest.social 11 points 3 weeks ago

As far as I can tell, no. I haven't been able to search or import releases since about April.

[–] bigb@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

You'll have to be more specific. :) I think it works well for organizing a music library unless there are issues with this feature that I'm unaware of. Using it to queue downloads was painful for me, so I resort to less automated ways to acquire music files.

Simply put, the *arr software concept works well for downloading movies and TV shows (Radarr and Sonarr). Music just seems to be a little more difficult and I have lots of issues with Lidarr finding music out on Usenet and trackers. I hope that's user error on my part.

[–] dmention7@midwest.social 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think the issue they are referring to is that Lidarr's API or interface with the MusicBrainz database has been broken for a few months now, which means it's impossible to search or add new artists/releases to your Lidarr library.

And as far as I can tell, it's still down. I have been unable to use Lidarr for anything since about April, except for finding releases that I had already added to my local database.

[–] bigb@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yikes that's a major issue that I coincidentally bypassed by not using Lidarr for the past few months myself.

[–] dmention7@midwest.social 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah, Lidarr is easily the weakest of the *arrs in my experience. As a newbie to setting up that stack, it was definitely nice to have a similar interface and functionality between the apps, but the last few months have me ready to look for something different for music.

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[–] Pzulu@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It is laziness on my part. I want to tell the Google home to play music.

I should just get a Bluetooth speaker and do this, shouldn't I

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago

You need the software, but there’s nothing about that request that should require access to the Internet.

I have a LLM chatbot that controls my Home Assistant and Kodi players. It’s all done locally and the response time is under a second.

On my PC(Arch, btw) I have a global hotkey so I can hold the key to record a message and when I let go of the key it uses a local model to do speech to text and sends the result to the chatbot.

I could probably use a wake word but I’d need to mic up my house and I’d rather not do that. A bluetooth lapel mic and a single button Bluetooth “keyboard” about the size of a key switch (using an ESP32C3 microcontroller) give me the same functionality.

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 7 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I guess I can be proud of not getting into Spotify at the first place. Instead of discovering new music, I discover older ones which I find more reliable since new music industry mostly suck. Oh, also Bandcamp is fine for discovering indie.

[–] TheMinister@sh.itjust.works 34 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There is so much music today. To say new music sucks is wild

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 5 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

That's my nostalgia talking but what I hear in public is bad, I mean in malls, stores, shops etc. maybe they have a bad taste though. By the way I said the industry sucks not the music. Because of the industry, they're much shorter now (thanks to Spotify I guess), I hardly find a 45 minutes album with whole great tracks.

[–] sheogorath@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If you're just looking at the popular stuff it's going to be shit. My library is filled with artists with just couple thousands of listens per month and it's the shit (to me).

Nowadays everyone can make music and it'll mean more stuff to filter through but there'll be more gems to discover.

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[–] orenj@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Walmart music will always be dull and milquetoast; its meant to be consumed by the nonexistant "perfectly normal" person. You gotta dig for that gnarly hipster shit you're into, but I guarantee its out there somewhere

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[–] TheMinister@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Well I dunno your tastes, but some newer music that isn’t shit (I’m an album listener myself, so I judge by the whole album):

Black MIDI - Hellfire

Adult Jazz - Gist Is

Billy Woods - all three of his newest (one is under “Armand Hammer”, called “we buy diabetic test strips”, the other is “maps,” probably the most widely accessible, and the newest is Golliwog)

Shellac - To All Trains

Fiona Apple - Fetch the Boltcutters

KNOWER - KNOWER Forever

Those few albums span some genres and should cover a lot of tastes. I can add some more if you’re interested, those were just off the top of my head

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[–] Bucky@okaythen.lol 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

If you really want to kick this up a notch, install Soularr and slskd and let it just churn on your library and drip music into your folder. No solution for the spotify discovery algorithm, at least not a good one. But this stack is solid.

[–] thetrekkersparky@startrek.website 4 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Instead of slskd I recommend using nicotine+. I found slskd worked fine, but was a pain to set up. I found a Nicotine docker that works just like the app inside a web UI. Much less of a learning curb for someone who's not familiar with servers.

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[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I thought Lidarr is for music. Sonarr is for series.

Downloading music illegally avoids giving money to the bad companies but the artists still need to get paid. They can't work for free. They deserve our money. So please share music, but also support the artists. Through bandcamp for example.

[–] Bucky@okaythen.lol 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What I meant was Soularr. Sorry there are just too many of these apps with similar names. Soularr is a python script that runs in docker and it checks Lidarr (I believe) and then sends that info back to slskd. It was checking my artist list in my navidrome dir and then checking slskd and downloading absolutely everything I didn't have by that artist. It ran for a few months, but I was kind of a novice at self hosting and a lot of duplicate files were created because I didn't have the volumes mapped properly in docker. Then I wrote a script that accidentaly created an infinite loop that started copying all the files one level deeper then would repeat . I stopped it after like 4 iterations. Long story short I have four copies of a bunch of files and I got lost with Beets and plan to start over from scratch with the original source library.

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wow that's sick! Would love to fix that next to all the other automated download systems I have, but I now have money and I want to support the artists. Maybe still a good idea for the impossible to get music which isn't sold anywhere. Like tekno. Thanks! I'll look into soularr. I know soulseek, but last time I tried it, it fucked up my internet connection settings somehow. Really weird. I wanted to try it again, after not using it for.... 15 years now? But yeah, all internet access was blocked when I opened slsk. Also the music I have to share is old. And back then the quality was poor. I have a 2TB music collection but I think 3/4 of it is poor quality mp3's.

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[–] BlushedPotatoPlayers@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What's with lastFM these days? I used it some 20 years ago when they started and they offered free, automatically curated radios (like Spotify ), but then they flipped, thanked the users for the data they collected from listening data and switched to some subscription model

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[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

I have also moved fully to navidrome. It's slightly less convenient, but it's worth it to deplarform

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