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    Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls β€œthe plateau of sustainability”

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    [–] Geodad@lemmy.world 1 points 11 minutes ago

    Yes, I fall everywhere on the knowledge spectrum. It just depends on which niche area I'm fixating on that day.

    [–] fleebleneeble@reddthat.com 1 points 13 minutes ago

    Went from Ubuntu, Mint, Manjaro, Garuda, Kubuntu, Bazzite, now CachyOS. Cachy has been wonderful for all my needs

    [–] Spesknight@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago

    Full circle, back to Mint

    [–] tarknassus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

    Plateau of Sustainability.

    Started on Storm Linux, went to Slackware, and then Ubuntu. Did my time in the Arch Valley of Despair, along with a little Manjaro. Even tried Debian for a bit. Went openSUSE for a few years and then moved to Fedora last year and stuck there since.

    [–] UltraBlack@lemmy.world 1 points 54 minutes ago

    Garuda has - apart from their theming - a pretty decent setup

    [–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 1 points 55 minutes ago

    Linux mint for less than a month. Cut me some slack!

    [–] troglodita@lemmy.zip 1 points 56 minutes ago

    Manjaro with no desktop environment, only sway

    [–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 3 points 1 hour ago

    I still use Kubuntu, btw.

    [–] madjo@feddit.nl 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

    I started out with Slackware, then Mandrake, then I went to Suse, then to Ubuntu, to Arch and then I sadly had to go back to Windows for work. But I have a SteamOS device for myself.

    [–] SparrowHawk@feddit.it 1 points 1 hour ago

    I'm in the PopOs stage!

    [–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 14 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

    I'm gonna put this out there: If you can do Endeavour or Manjaro, you can do Arch, and Arch is in no way less stable than Tumbleweed. All you need to do is to pick btrfs and enable snapshots and then never use them.

    [–] this@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

    Isn't Endeavour just easy install arch?

    [–] zaphodb2002@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

    Manjaro too, but with even more interference

    [–] this@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago

    You mean because manjaro packages are older than arch right?

    My understanding is that Endevouros just uses the same repos as arch while manjaro delays the package releases for testing, so the packages you get on Endevouros are essentially the same as arch but the same can't be said of manjaro.

    [–] sefra1@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 hours ago

    Nice corporate ad...

    I would rather "despair" with a community based distro than using capitalistware were that graph true, however my Arch machine works perfectly fine and have no need to do so. On the other hand corporate distros...

    [–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 2 hours ago

    Mandrake > Suse > Debian > Gentoo > Arch (since 2008).

    Next machine will probably be debian, if any. Might stay with the work macbook.

    [–] Masterkraft0r@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

    i use nix so i'm of the chart! did not have a system break in a year even when on unstable

    [–] debil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

    Debian, since etch. Also, not corpo owned since birth.

    [–] Sneptaur@pawb.social 5 points 3 hours ago

    Been using Arch + KDE Plasma since 2021 with very few issues. Now I have a job as a support engineer for a Linux software company.

    [–] Sidhean@piefed.social 13 points 4 hours ago

    I know nothing, and I'm keeping it that way

    My system of choice is Mint, btw

    [–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 hours ago

    Ubuntu: they tell you its easy, but in fact is a huge pain in the ass and breaks. Last two installs for projects I was working on were broken out of the box.

    I remember trying Ubuntu 4 and wondering what the fuss was about. It IS the despair. Nice fonts and colors though.

    [–] MTK@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

    My arch only breaks when I (unknowingly) tell it to.

    [–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 hours ago

    Somewhere just past the "trauma induced return to ubuntu"

    God damn that chart is accurate though.

    [–] janNatan@lemmy.ml 23 points 5 hours ago

    My guess before reading the comments:

    "Everyone hated that."

    [–] rarsamx@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

    I think for me the wave has more peaks and valleys.

    I get to the last stage of good knowledge and decent confidence but then something new comes and I feel I'm ready for punishment again.

    My first Valley of despair was Gentoo. 6 months of constantly compiling stuff and rarely using the computer for anything else. But a bit before that it was Fedora. In those early days, updates would continuously break my system.

    In that first round I finally settled for Mint for years. After years of stable Linux Mint, I found my self with time and curious for Arch. And yes, that became the new l valley of despair. But eventually my stable instance.

    But new things come and Wayland and new sound systems replaced what I had in my installation. Arch was again the valley of despair. And moved to Fedora, which is as stable as stable can be. I was traveling for the last two years so, no time to mess around.

    Now back to arch trying to figure out the Wayland/Niri ecosystem. Let's see where I land.

    However, in my dual boots I always have a working installation I'm happy with and another which I mess up with.

    [–] tainted4348@infosec.pub 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

    Almost there. I’m on AlmaLinux Atomic Desktop GNOME. It’s freaking sweet. The main thing that kept me from an ultra-stable distro for the longest time was the lack of user packages, but now with Flatpak and Brew, it’s pretty nice. No more distro-hopping for me.

    https://github.com/AlmaLinux/atomic-desktop

    [–] umbraroze@slrpnk.net 7 points 5 hours ago

    I started out with Slackware 3.0. It broke all the time. Tried Debian. Was happy ever since. Tried Ubuntu on laptops but later decided it's just Debian with extra steps so I went with Debian after all.

    [–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 8 points 5 hours ago

    "trauma induced return to Ubuntu" 😭 it was my wifi not working that did it, and I'm just so used to Ubuntu from years of using it at work...

    [–] this@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

    Well I use arch for one of my computers and Debian for all my homelab servers, so I guess I'm at both minimum and near maximum confidence simultaneously.

    [–] theluckyone@discuss.online 7 points 6 hours ago

    Been in the Valley of Despair (Gentoo) for twenty years.

    I think I like it here.

    [–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

    I'm running Kinonite and Fedora Cinnamon spin on my two machines. So I must be at 'enlightenment'.

    Honestly, I'm tired Boss-- so tired. After years and years of fooling around with various Distros, I no longer want to work hard to make my computer work. I like the auto-update feature of Kinonite. Life is short and I ain't got that much of it left to waste on Arch.......

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    [–] fading_person@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 hours ago

    I went directly from ubuntu to arch, and then fedora. My curve was like a 1st order system, without that confidence overshoot. However, I don't feel like competent today, neither I have confidence in my skills.

    [–] mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

    Being a Debian guy for a long time, now Guix.

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    I mean I primarily use arch and would confidently call myself an actual expert. I do use debian for servers tho. So maybe I'm nearing the slope of enlightenment?

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