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    Alt text: A line plot with 2 axis (confidence vs competence) referencing the Dunning-Kruger effect with various distro logos placed at different points on the line. Starts with mint/ubuntu near (0,0) and progressing through multiple distros to end up with opensuse/fedora at what it calls “the plateau of sustainability”

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    [–] DrunkAnRoot@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

    i followed it until kali and then i fell into the pit of despair wich is were i am now because i learnded gentoo

    [–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 days ago

    I will never go back to ubuntu, begrudgingly or not

    [–] tomenzgg@midwest.social 6 points 3 days ago

    I went from Ubuntu to Mint to Debian and, now, Guix; so…I dunno.

    [–] Valmond@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

    Heey!

    (Me on Mint)

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    [–] ComradeRachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 days ago

    I approve this message.

    [–] Lightcrater@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

    I went from POPos to manjaro to Garuda, then went to fedora and then went to aurora but rebased to bazziteDX so for me this is REALLY accurate except for the dip

    [–] Vahenir@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

    I'm on garuda so i guess at the start on that. Already been through the valley of despair though, went back to windows and it sucked so i went right back on garuda, which has been working since.

    [–] Dequei@piefed.social 7 points 3 days ago

    Endeavour

    [–] HouseWolf@pawb.social 7 points 3 days ago

    Damn I jumped right from Pop_OS to Endeavour, then plunged into Arch before running back crying to Endeavour...

    [–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

    I went from Tumbleweed to Garuda to Endeavour to plain Arch, so either your graph is off or me. Or both.

    [–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

    I was using Ubuntu and Linux Mint more than a decade ago, then I switched to Debian, so I guess I skipped most of this curve, lol.

    [–] germanatlas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 days ago

    Im using Debian but I’m definitely at the end of the downward path of the first spike

    [–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 3 days ago

    Arch. After every update I check what broke. And then discover things I forgot to check.

    I am still not sure if it's already safe to upgrade VirtualBox and iio-sensor-proxy, but I am too lazy to just downgrade them yet again.

    So I just...

    IgnorePkg   = iio-sensor-proxy # Issues in Wayland after suspend
IgnorePkg   = virtualbox virtualbox-host-modules-lts virtualbox-host-dkms virtualbox-guest-iso # Segfault in 7.2.x, reverted to 7.1.8 - see sys-management-log.txt entry 2025-08-29

    If you're curious about the log entries:

    2025-07-06:
        downgraded iio-sensor-proxy to 3.6-1 as 3.7 caused issues after suspending
        added iio-sensor-proxy to IgnorePkg in /etc/pacman.conf

2025-08-29:
        downgraded virtualbox packages to 7.1.8 as 7.2.x was broken (segfault)
        installed linux-lts-headers as the downgraded virtualbox suddenly wanted that
        removed and reinstalled related packages a couple of times (virtualbox-host-modules-lts, virtualbox-host-modules-arch, virtualbox-host-dkms), as well as switching between linux-lts and linux. Hopefully that didn't create any brand new funny business.
        I want to die
        added IgnorePkg   = virtualbox virtualbox-host-modules-lts virtualbox-host-dkms virtualbox-guest-iso to /etc/pacman.conf

    I recommend writing some documentation about your system. My Manjaro install became a total unknown mess after a while. I know I had to create some symlinks at some point to fix something, something something custom "XDG_CONFIG_HOME" dir with separate theme to un-break Cisco Packet Tracer on dark theme, edited startup script for Packet Tracer.
    On one Ubuntu VM I edited a bunch of config files that I didn't remember so it was just don't touch it while it works.

    But hey, I feel better after knowing that during high school our internet was down for weeks because something broke on main proxy server and nobody had documentation for the 2 decades old backup server, including the password, so it just ended up running in a "don't touch it" mode, except that it also limited download speed on unknown PCs (based on MAC) to something like 32Kbps, which after 20 years meant nearly any PC so the solution was to copy MACs from basically ewaste.

    Anyway... write documentation for what you do.

    [–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 days ago

    Lol. My main PC is Nobora (Fedora fork). My kids laptop is tumbleweed and I'm setting up an HTPC with bazzite.

    So...two Fedora, 1 OpenSUSE.

    Guess I know where I place on this graph.

    [–] Seasm0ke@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

    Lol openSuse → Mint → Manjaro→ Garuda so regressing idc

    [–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 1 points 2 days ago

    Linux mint for less than a month. Cut me some slack!

    [–] troglodita@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

    Manjaro with no desktop environment, only sway

    [–] eronth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago

    Just leaving the valley of despair, i suppose?

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