XDG dirs please and thank you
this post was submitted on 08 Sep 2025
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I love cloud IDEs. I love being unable to setup anything to my liking. I love using the slowest most inefficient defaults they have for us. I love being unable to code without logging in into a website. I love never learning 90% of the technologies I will be using daily and all the problems that come with it.
Lol as if anyone ran their stuff on slowdows
i do all my coding in c:\documents and settings
All my programs install straight into c:, directories are for the weak.
All the executable files I build go straight to SysWOW64
Not really. I don't have a SysWOW64.
I deleted it long ago, along with System32 and other such things.
do all your coding in 8.3 filename convention.
Is Git Hub not considered a cloud? Why does it matter where one stores files, what does that have to do with ability? Or is this really about developing the technology, and in turn provoking said fear in people? (I am not a developer)
GitHub is kind of a cloud service, but it isn't a server host. Cloud development is just more…abstracted than traditional web development. Instead of controlling a computer and choosing how to store files and managing ports and firewalls and making backups and serving requests and redirecting to closer servers and making sure you have enough computing power but not too much computing power and all that stuff, you instead just give Amazon/Microsoft/Google your code and data and pay them to do all that for you.
GitHub is code social media not hosting.
GitHub is where you store your code, but it's not where it's actually run
I’d be afraid of anyone referencing “c:\users” too.
/mnt/c/Users/ user checking in.
That's "C:\\Users" to you
"c:\users"? what? c:?
so it isnt a: anymore?
A: was for saving 💾.
"Windows meme makers, can you go five seconds without revealing your appalling lack of technical curiosity?"
Windows Meme Makers: "The C drive! ...... How long was that?"
About 260 characters in length I think
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Fuck OneDrive with a rusty hook.
Ok, so not OneDrive generally but specifically the unholy merging of OD and Win11. JFC when I navigate to a folder and save a file there THAT FILE HAD BETTER FUCKING BE THERE and not in some shadow folder you default mapped to OneDrive because FUCK ME, RIGHT?
This irritates me so much. Get off my lawn.
looks at license agreement
No you don’t.
Uhh, I absolutely do own the hardware that is the computer.
Nah, as someone who gave an honest, college try at making use of OneDrive, I maintain its fate vis a vie the rusty hook.
As a university sysadmin that spent half a fucking hour yesterday trying to log someone out of a classroom computer's MS Office software (the "sign out" button did fuck all, go figure): fuck Microsoft, fuck Office, fuck Outlook, fuck Onedrive, fuck their SSO, and their mother too. Next semester I'm sanitizing the computers. Students will use LibreOffice and they'll like it.
I might be a little angry.
I have been out of the PC game for a long time. Got a laptop recently and discovered you need to sign up for a subscription to use the office package, doesnt just come with windows any more. No big deal, my wife says she has a subscription as part of her phone contract.
Cool. Easy.
What. The fuck. Is this mess? Everything is saved on their servers instead of locally? I try to sign myself in but thats impossible because shes signed in except I cant use her licenses because im signed in which im not because shes signed in?
WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED HERE? WHO THE FUCK HAS PUT THEIR NAME TO THIS SHIT? HOW DOES ANY CUNT USE IT?
Not only that but you cant just open excel any more, you have to open the whole windows office launcher portal (which isnt even called office) and fumble your way around to try and find the file first or some bollocks? I don't even know I nearly launched the laptop out the fucking window.
office package doesnt just come with windows any more
strictly speaking, it never was part of windows, or came bundled with it from Microsoft. Our first family windows computer (Win 98) didn't come with an office license, instead the manufacturer included only "Word" and "Works" as a "value add". It was a separate piece of software that we could install (or not if we chose to).
Up to including windows 7, every single computer any of my friends and family purchased came only with a windows license, If they wanted MS Office, they had to buy the license separately and install the software package themselves. Sometimes it might have come preinstalled as a trial, but that still required purchasing a license after a set amount of time (usually 90 days, I believe), and it varied from OEM to OEM, as did their other bloatware (Norton, Eset, etc.).
I have only noticed Windows installing office out of the box with Windows 10/11, where they install the app from the MS store during the initial setup - I assume they started this on Windows 8 as well, but I have only seen PCs being upgraded from 7 to 8/8.1, never a fresh install.
But even then, it's just a limited trial for their office 365 suite.
I knew you could throw Windows OS onto a laptop. Didn't know you could throw a laptop out of Windows OS.
You have the ability to do that? Super jealous. Everything at my university was so tightly integrated with the windows ecosystem and its accounts that separating would have been an incredible amount of work.
Not on my own, I'm technically only responsible for the network and cybersecurity, but not being able to log out of an education account on a public computer is a pretty serious threat. Fortunately I'm on good terms with the dean and he's always been receptive to my concerns.
Well. Now it's a security concern ;)
Next semester I'm sanitizing the computers. Students will use LibreOffice and they'll like it.
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Please use /home/ instead.
/home/ what? it needs to be /home/$(whoami)
Nah it should be $HOME, not everyone's home directory is in the default location.
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Nah you should use xdg dirs, it's 2025.
Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but as shown in your link, $HOME does not conflict with the XDG Base Directory Specification. It partially relies on $HOME being defined.
Subdirs of $HOME are used as defaults. So using $HOME alone is not enough.
Also, prior to xdg dirs, applications were (many still are) storing their data under $HOME/.myapplication/.
/home
Ah you mean 127.0.0.1?
no, he obviously means localhost
or localguest, if you dont host the local party
Wait I'm confused is this about people developing cloud software or is this about people who do their development on a remote cloud machine? It seems to be about the latter but I've never seen that
I'd say it's about cloud techs being "scared" of the local storage.
As it's usually linux on servers and windows on-prem workstations I'd say it's them being scared of storing anything locally.
That would make sense if it didn't use a Windows file path :D
Oooh the latter would make so much more sense! I'm not a cloud developer, but a good chunk of the code I write runs in AWS Lambdas and EC2 Images and I was so confused as to what relation that would even have to local storage. If anything, I'm afraid of Terraform and it's arcane power
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boo!
edit: i guess my tilde shows up as a tick. welp..... time to die in cringe of myself.
It's ok. I see a tilde. And yes, ~
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