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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Coskii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago

I interpreted it as the fog of purgatory.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

i think that's what the artist implies by the clouds not surrounding him

[–] drzoidberg@lemmy.world 92 points 2 days ago (4 children)

This is assuming he went to heaven. He definitely did not. He's rotting in hell with Hulk Hogan.

[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is assuming heaven and hell do exist. I'd be pretty ok if this person was just gone forever. I hope his name will fade out quickly.

I'm ready to forget him forever. Just like most of his lot.

[–] drzoidberg@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Remember Rush Limbaugh? Yea, no one else does either. That's exactly how Republicans go out. They're quickly forgotten.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Let me assure you, there is no god, no devil, no heaven, no hell, no angels, no demons. You're not alive, then atoms arrange themselves, you start being alive, a pattern is sustained, a pattern degrades, then you're not alive again.

That's all there is. It's just you, me, and everyone else on this planet right now. There's no invisible sky daddy checking his Rolodex to see if you're spanking it to tranny porn.

[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't believe that either. I personally believe that one's memory and how it lives on in other people is our final judgement.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That makes no sense, you're not alive anymore to be judged. You are gone. If you imagine a dead person partying or having sex, does that do or change anything to the dead person? It's over.

However if you meant like in a general sense like the way people judge Stalin or Hitler, fine, but they're also gone.

[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

I meant in the general sense. A bit like the Pratchett quote from /u/samus12345 in this thread. It wont matter to them personally but being thought of as the worst person alive is a pretty powerful judgement.

That way no god judgest you, but your peers who are alive. It's a bit like Dawkins' idea of memes, those who remain relevant the longest (e.g. Aristotle) are the greatest. Therefore those who are remebered as pricks get judged most harshly and people who are fondly remembered are the most blessed.

But thats my belief, and I wont really preach that as there is little to gain. There is a bit of karmic justice in it I think.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

“No one is finally dead until the ripples they cause in the world die away, until the clock wound up winds down, until the wine she made has finished its ferment, until the crop they planted is harvested. The span of someone’s life is only the core of their actual existence.”

― Terry Pratchett, Reaper Man

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

here’s no invisible sky daddy checking his Rolodex to see if you’re spanking it to tranny porn.

i mean why would they be checking their rolodex when they could be jorglin it

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

I assume that's why he created porn

[–] errer@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Notice Kirk isn’t on a cloud. He’s about to fall down to the deepest levels of Heck

[–] mitch@piefed.mitch.science 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Not all religions and cultures believe in Hell as a discrete place; it's actually a pretty uniquely Christian (okay and Zoroastrian, leave me alone) eschatological phenomenon. Most world religions really understand the afterlife as a constant for everyone, in the way that if you get on a train and leave one station, you have little choice but to go to the next station.

In the Bahá'í tradition, 'Heaven' and 'Hell' are considered poetic (or, if you're into the Monist / Dualist discourse, 'fictional elements') descriptions of the state of any one person's spirit upon arriving at the afterlife. 'Hell' is a state in the way having chronic pain is 'being in hell.'

[–] sausager@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Yeah they should be yelling from the clouds while he gets pulled to hell

[–] mitch@piefed.mitch.science 70 points 2 days ago

This right here is the power of political cartoons in one example - like no other medium, it can just go right on up to it. God DAMN. Your magnum opus Lalo.

[–] transientpunk@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 days ago (12 children)

Did Charlie Kirk get shot twice?

[–] _lilith@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

No just once in the neck. There was a single spent casing. and after seeing that first shot there wasn't really a need for a follow up. The extra blood dot might indicate the blood that drenched his shirt

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago

Not as far as I know, but this does imply it!

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It bounced off of his body armor and got him in the neck.

https://youtu.be/y6zPjo5Vogc?t=390

[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm near certain he was not wearing body armor, and if he was, it was definitely not level IV plate. That stuff is thick.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I have, repeatedly. It's not easy to conceal body armor under a T-shirt without it printing obviously.

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[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I move that the gun control laws that need to be created will be named after him.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Well goddamn

[–] FuyuhikoDate@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Context? And no u don't gonna click on a link, which leads to a website currently own by a transphobe racist... (twitter)

[–] elbucho@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Charlie Kirk famously said that some deaths due to gun violence each year is worth it for the 2nd amendment. I have no way of knowing for sure, but I'm guessing he never thought he was going to be one of the victims.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 30 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I used that to fuck with a MAGAt. They said something smug, hateful, and annoying while mentioning Kirk. I said “Not many people get to actually die for what they believe in. He’s a lucky man.”

Is that praise, mockery, or both? YOU decide!

[–] elbucho@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think it's a bit of both.

Now, if you had said something like: "Huh - all it took was one bullet to make Kirk start leaning to the left", that would have been straight mockery.

[–] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fuck that's good dark humor 👏👏👏

[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Tempus_Fugit@midwest.social 10 points 2 days ago

Bro, it's so fucked... Lol

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

I bring up the worth it quote and his asinine take on empathy and chastise people being so mournful. He explicitly said it was worth it and thought empathy was damaging so it's actually dishonoring him to mourn his passing.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 4 points 2 days ago
[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Charlie Kirk was shot and killed at a university in Utah. He also was a staunch gun loving ammosexual. He would post pro gun stuff, all the time the US continues to have school shootings. So dead kids with bullet wounds asking the now bullet carrying Kirk if his position was worth it.

Or at least I think.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

Worse than that. After a school shooting he was asked if that would affect his position on guns. He responded that in order to maintain the second amendment, some gun deaths were "worth it". Like explicitly said it was worth it. Not paraphrased or taken out of context.

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