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An american that wants to follow international law? What doofus...

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He should order every ICE agent be stopped and immediately identify themselves. Even if an agent was identified 5 minutes ago, if the mask goes up start the whole process over again

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I mean, that's cool and all, but the N.Y. Times latching on to stuff like that makes it easier for them to try to smear him as a "radical Muslim antisemite" or whatever and bury stories about his economic populism. When push comes to shove, it's the latter that working-class New Yorkers care about and that would get him elected.

I don't think he's wrong to take that position re: Netanyahu, but I think it's possibly a tactical error to let the media bait him into focusing on it instead of hammering on the economic message.

[–] nednobbins@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's clearly the NYTs intent in writing this article.

Do you think New Yorkers will buy the "radical Muslim antisemite" line?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They already haven't. They're smarter than average red state Americans.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Nah. No group's smarter than any other group on average.

The difference is they actually know those people irl instead of only seeing them in propaganda films and on Fox.

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 1 week ago

The majority of NYC residents would like to see Netanyahu get fucked last I checked. Anti-Israel stuff is immensely popular among democrats in general.

[–] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Smear? Fuck that makes me want to vote for him more.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Perhaps, but I think his message from the debate was better: The job is to be mayor of a city, there's no reason the office should have anything at all to do with foreign affairs so long as those affairs stay out of the city.

Like personally I appreciate calling out the atrocity, but it isn't the job of the mayor to be neck deep in that either way.

[–] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think limiting the purview of the mayor should be left to the mayor. If he wants to make his position clear on this he has every right to do that. And maybe some call that spending political capitol for nothing, I say it inspires my support.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I'd say as a person, he can express his thoughts. For him to personally condemn the events is good. For him to say that if the federal government were reasonable, Netanyahu should be arrested.

I think declaring that he would try to use his authority as mayor to pull the NYPD into it against the will of the federal government is a bit more tricky. During a debate when every single last other person pandered to Israel he made the solid point that a Mayor's job is to tend to his city, not foreign affairs. This sort of undermines that point. Admittedly, technically he still would only get involved if Netanyahu came to NYC, but by declaring this so publicly it has had the effect of provoking Netanyahu, who seemed to be inclined to test Mamdani's words by defiantly coming to NYC with Trump if Mamdani were elected.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

The antisemitism accusstions no longer works we all see the genocide live

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

On the other hand, this has been a tactic of the right, and it’s somewhat successful: Keep showing new avenues of attack, and you put your adversaries constantly on the defensive.

What’s sad is, many voters don’t care about the merits of an issue; just the optics of power and assertion. Person X is on the defensive, criticizing a bold statement and thinking they should walk back on it, Person Y is already spouting a new message.

[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

I think it's a tactical error to let the right-wing fascists dictate your policies before there's even a chance they get enacted.

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[–] lennee@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago
[–] cannon_annon88@lemmy.today 16 points 1 week ago

The balls on this guy

[–] tamal3@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It actually makes sense as hasn't Netanyahu been in New York City several times since October 7th? He's not welcome there and would be arrested by the NYPD.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The nypd would treat him like royalty and hand him to the feds to Spirit him out of there. NYPD are fucking Nazis. Maybe not all of the rank and file but the leadership. I forget if there are like 40, 60,000 of them. They're bigger than a lot of countries' armies.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 week ago

If Mamdani wins, they'll probably do some lame performative bullshit like turn their backs to him during his inauguration..

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nypd-officers-again-turn-backs-on-mayor-de-blasio-at-cops-funeral/

https://time.com/3652979/deblasio-nypd-funeral/

[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

make sure to vote new yorkers

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Interesting, but given that America isn't party to the ICC I wonder what legal reason he could provide for this.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (9 children)
[–] magguzu@midwest.social 2 points 1 week ago

Right, but this is the exact reason even Bernie refuses to use that word. Because then we are supposed to do something about it.

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So Trump and Netanyahu are definitely going to call his bluff. He needs to prepare for how that will play out. So do we.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Mamdani has to get elected first, once that's achieved he can worry about such trivialities as reality.

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[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

We could make it a celebration! I'd love to see that war criminal be held accountable!

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago

Yeah this seems nice symbolically as a, you're not welcome in new york city thing, but practically a train wreck waiting to happen that is ultimately very unlikely to end up looking good for Mamdani if his bluff is called.

[–] EnochianFarms@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fuck yes. We've let our colony go rogue and it's time to arrest the governor and bring him to justice.

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