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An american that wants to follow international law? What doofus...

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 58 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He should order every ICE agent be stopped and immediately identify themselves. Even if an agent was identified 5 minutes ago, if the mask goes up start the whole process over again

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[–] grue@lemmy.world 45 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

I mean, that's cool and all, but the N.Y. Times latching on to stuff like that makes it easier for them to try to smear him as a "radical Muslim antisemite" or whatever and bury stories about his economic populism. When push comes to shove, it's the latter that working-class New Yorkers care about and that would get him elected.

I don't think he's wrong to take that position re: Netanyahu, but I think it's possibly a tactical error to let the media bait him into focusing on it instead of hammering on the economic message.

[–] nednobbins@lemmy.zip 18 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

That's clearly the NYTs intent in writing this article.

Do you think New Yorkers will buy the "radical Muslim antisemite" line?

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 2 weeks ago

The majority of NYC residents would like to see Netanyahu get fucked last I checked. Anti-Israel stuff is immensely popular among democrats in general.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

The antisemitism accusstions no longer works we all see the genocide live

[–] Sprocketfree@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Smear? Fuck that makes me want to vote for him more.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Perhaps, but I think his message from the debate was better: The job is to be mayor of a city, there's no reason the office should have anything at all to do with foreign affairs so long as those affairs stay out of the city.

Like personally I appreciate calling out the atrocity, but it isn't the job of the mayor to be neck deep in that either way.

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[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

On the other hand, this has been a tactic of the right, and it’s somewhat successful: Keep showing new avenues of attack, and you put your adversaries constantly on the defensive.

What’s sad is, many voters don’t care about the merits of an issue; just the optics of power and assertion. Person X is on the defensive, criticizing a bold statement and thinking they should walk back on it, Person Y is already spouting a new message.

[–] Evkob@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago

I think it's a tactical error to let the right-wing fascists dictate your policies before there's even a chance they get enacted.

[–] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He doesn't even need to focus on it, he just need to tangentially allude to it and suddenly a bunch of these hack rags will end up treating it like its the capstone of his policy agenda.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

All the more reason to STFU about it now, and then just do it once he's in office if the opportunity presents itself.

Speaking of which, telegraphing that visiting NYC would be a bad idea for Netanyahu under Mamdani's leadership is also exactly the opposite of what he should do.

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[–] lennee@lemmy.world 27 points 2 weeks ago
[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 18 points 2 weeks ago
[–] cannon_annon88@lemmy.today 16 points 2 weeks ago

The balls on this guy

[–] tamal3@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It actually makes sense as hasn't Netanyahu been in New York City several times since October 7th? He's not welcome there and would be arrested by the NYPD.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The nypd would treat him like royalty and hand him to the feds to Spirit him out of there. NYPD are fucking Nazis. Maybe not all of the rank and file but the leadership. I forget if there are like 40, 60,000 of them. They're bigger than a lot of countries' armies.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 weeks ago

If Mamdani wins, they'll probably do some lame performative bullshit like turn their backs to him during his inauguration..

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nypd-officers-again-turn-backs-on-mayor-de-blasio-at-cops-funeral/

https://time.com/3652979/deblasio-nypd-funeral/

[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

make sure to vote new yorkers

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Interesting, but given that America isn't party to the ICC I wonder what legal reason he could provide for this.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)
[–] magguzu@midwest.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

Right, but this is the exact reason even Bernie refuses to use that word. Because then we are supposed to do something about it.

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So Trump and Netanyahu are definitely going to call his bluff. He needs to prepare for how that will play out. So do we.

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Mamdani has to get elected first, once that's achieved he can worry about such trivialities as reality.

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[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

We could make it a celebration! I'd love to see that war criminal be held accountable!

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah this seems nice symbolically as a, you're not welcome in new york city thing, but practically a train wreck waiting to happen that is ultimately very unlikely to end up looking good for Mamdani if his bluff is called.

[–] EnochianFarms@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Fuck yes. We've let our colony go rogue and it's time to arrest the governor and bring him to justice.

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