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[–] Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Low effort because using Trump is cheating

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

And people think Biden is incoherent...

[–] Princeali311@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This is what I don't understand. Biden has slip ups or forgets a name or mumbles a bit, but Trump doesn't make any sense with 90% of the shit he says.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It's easy to understand when you realize that everything is team sports with Republicans. as pathetic as trump is and has become, a ton of them still support him.

Imagine if any Democrat gassed protesters in the street so they could take a weird picture with an upside down bible in front of a church they'd not step a toe into if their life depended on it. Republicans would talk about how fucked it was for decades. Trump does it, it's worth defending to the death

[–] Princeali311@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Imagine the Dems doing anything the Republicans did...it would be defcon 1

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 2 years ago

It's pure charisma. You might listen to Trump's speeches and thought "what an idiot", but you've seen nothing until you've read the transcript

It's always incoherent

[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

People falsely claim Biden is incoherent in order to deflect from this sort of shit with Trump. If you go around assuming the fascists actually believe the nonsense they're saying, you're gonna have a bad time.

[Insert Sartre quote here]

[–] CurlyMoustache@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Biden has a stutter

[Not a Sartre quote]

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Merely stuttering and being incoherent aren't the same thing, though.

[–] Oyster_Lust@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It's typical of the way he speaks coming from a salesman and promoter background. He says a lot that can't be argued with because there's really nothing there to argue. He also has a confidence and structure around the words that allows people to read things into what he's saying. People supporting him will see him as saying what they believe and people against him will see him saying the opposite of what they believe. In reality, he didn't say anything of substance, but he managed to get both sides worked up. It's very fascinating to see both supporters and opposers get so emotional over things being said that have absolutely no substance. It's a great study in tribalism, group think, and general psychology.

[–] TheSlad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"people against him will see him saying the opposite of what they believe"

No actually we clearly see him saying absolutely nothing and we're just mad that half the population is dumb enough to fall for it.

[–] Nastybutler@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Exactly. Half the country sees the emperor is naked and insistently say so, but unlike the children's tale, the other half refuse to see it once told.

[–] Oyster_Lust@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

I should have clarified the "opposers" as the people who have to mention Trump in every conversation and get so physically upset at the very mention of his name. I didn't mean just the people who don't support him.

[–] fiah@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He says a lot that can’t be argued with because there’s really nothing there to argue.

if there's nothing to argue, then arguably he hasn't said anything at all. Yeah sure words came out of his mouth but without any coherent meaning behind them, it's just word vomit

[–] Oyster_Lust@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

And yet people get riled up on both sides because they think he actually said something.

[–] crawancon@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

as an "opposer", I'm not seeing the opposite of what I "believe", I'm seeing useless propaganda being spread and I'd hence be angry at any political sides' source...

this source just happens to be a fountain of misinformation.