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That's not a narrative though. A narrative is when he is clearly on team A or team B for a handful of cherry picked reasons that reduce his psychology to a caricature.

Coming in here with this sensible straight talking shit... Why I oughta ...

Guy went to college for one semester of virtual classes, and that was enough to radicalize him!? I want whatever you are smoking.

I think it's just common sense. When the fascists start spewing "he's super leftist and trans" propaganda you don't respond with "wait, we have to wait for more facts". You respond with your own propaganda. Being nice and following rules will not help you stop fascism. The groyper narrative might have actually prevented retaliation and saved lives.

I'm sad that the supposedly better side is spreading missinformation and propaganda just like that.

Specially because it's pushing a propaganda about "If your parents are X you are X". Which is really harmful for all the people not following the same ideology as their parents.

I’ll leave this here for others like me who apparently are really out of the loop

Groypers, sometimes called the Groyper Army, are a group of alt-right, white nationalist, and Christian nationalist 41 activists led by Nick Fuentes. Groypers are a loosely defined group of Fuentes's followers and fans. They are named after a cartoon amphibian named "Groyper", a variant of the Internet meme Pepe the Frog.

Agreed - I really hate doing this "next generation bad" thing, but this really is a different situation than what we've seen before. The way the Internet creates a feedback loop of extremism around every single topic is terrifying, and people are completely missing the profound effects this is having on developing brains - priming them for radicalization while critical thought atrophies.

When we grew up we had a set of influences which grounded us in reality. Even if we found subversive places on the Internet, we still spent most of our time with our parents and teacher and coaches, etc. This is completely inverted now. Kids traverse the internet like a dog sniffing out idiotic ideas, and when they find the validation they seek, there's seemingly no way to pull it out of them.

as someone what has been online since '96....don't these kids realize we were all joking? evidently not. They take it seriously when "back in my day" we would have ridiculed them for it. I mean I'm old enough to see the rise and fall of 4chan, it's dead now but at it's peak it was dumb troll comics and edgelord antics. Then all of sudden zoomers decided that our shitposts were things to model their lives around.

It's like when I was a kid and we had convinced my friends little brother that if he held a battery on his tongue for long enough he could get mutant powers. like no dude, you're not getting power and confidence, you just look like an idiot with a battery on his tongue.

Most people don’t think super hard about their political ideology.

This is perhaps the most important insight one can have when it comes to entertaining the 'fun' discussions on christmas dinner. Both in constructing an argument and maintaining healthy relationships.

People really cling to being a "good" person. And not thinking can serve as a shield to maintain this; at least within one's own self-image.

Why would they have a patsy who doesn’t fit the narrative they want? That makes no sense

The "text" messages seem really weird, like someone who is like 40+ tried writing like a much younger person...

Everything seems to add up in just this perfectly awkward way...

And this is my crazy ass thoughts: I'm not even sure the dude is real, or his family is, i have not seen an actual interview from these people who keep saying all these things... is it just a bunch of Ai bullshit? Part of a Cover up?

What are you trying to say?