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The lawsuit is beyond parody, even by Trump's standards.

Yesterday, the world’s most famous mugger leapt out from the digital bushes and demanded $15 billion from The Gray Lady.

After successfully leveraging his official position to squeeze millions of dollars out of CBS and ABC, Trump has now turned his sights on the paper of record. Or, as he blustered on Truth Social, “The New York Times has been allowed to freely lie, smear, and defame me for far too long, and that stops, NOW!”

But the president files a lot of lawsuits, and most of them come to absolutely nothing.

Trump has recently sued CNN, the Washington Post, Simon and Schuster, New York Attorney General Letitia James, E. Jean Carroll, the Des Moines Register, and the Wall Street Journal. He once sued dozens of people. including Hillary Clinton, James Comey, and Trump’s own deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein, for doing THE RICO to him. That case got him a million dollars in sanctions, with the judge calling out Trump’s “deliberate use of a frivolous lawsuit for an improper purpose” as part of a “playbook” that includes “provocative and boastful rhetoric,” “attacks on political opponents and the news media,” and “disregard for legal principles and precedent.”

But even by those debased standards, the suit against the Times is exceptionally ridiculous...

In fact, most of the supposedly defamatory allegations come from the book “Lucky Loser: How Donald Trump Squandered His Father's Fortune and Created the Illusion of Success,” written by Times reporters Russ Buettner and Susanne Craig. But while Buettner and Craig, along with their publisher Penguin Random House, are named defendants, the lawsuit functions mainly as a vehicle for Trump to vent his spleen at The Times.

Whether it’s defamatory to suggest that someone had a messy desk and battered furniture three decades ago is an open question. But Trump is a public figure, so he’ll have to prove more than that the reporting was false and damaging.

Under the landmark Supreme Court case New York Times v. Sullivan, defamation of a public figure requires “actual malice,” defined as proof that the speaker either knew that that the statement was false, or spoke with reckless disregard for the truth. Trump simply states in conclusory fashion that the authors “knew that Trump Tower in general, and in particular the office on the twenty-sixth floor, were in excellent condition and had no such defects.”

No evidence is presented to prove this supposed knowledge. And in fact, the article quotes multiple sources, including producer Bill Pruitt, who said “when you go into the office and you’re hearing ‘billionaire,’ even ‘recovering billionaire,’ you don’t expect to see chipped furniture, you don’t expect to smell carpet that needs to be refreshed in the worst, worst way.” Another producer, Alan Blum, said it was “absurd” to think that highly qualified job applicants would humiliate themselves for the opportunity to work in such a dump.

Trump insists that his name is “synonymous not only with New York City real estate but also with worldwide excellence, luxury, and opulence.” He’s clearly very sensitive about the suggestion that executive producer Mark Burnett had to “reinvent” him, burnishing his image to make him seem more successful, polished, and hardworking than he was.

“Only President Trump had the necessary combination of actual business achievement, charisma, fame, personality, intellect, and instinctual comfort in front of a television audience that could drive the show to television heights,” he protests peevishly, adding that “in truth, President Trump was the only man who could have delivered the results that Burnett and NBC sought.”

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[–] orclev@lemmy.world 38 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

I saw an analysis that claims he screwed up massively with this lawsuit because the way he filed this waved his recently granted presidential immunity and opens him up to discovery and deposition. Even worse because all his recent scandals (like his very close relationship with Epstein) are relevant to the case he can't wiggle out of answering those questions. I really hope the new york times actually uses this opportunity to squeeze him rather than just sweeping the whole thing under the rug.

[–] Bonus@piefed.social 18 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Frivolous lawsuits (and executive orders) will do that to ya.

Also, there's this, which I forgot about:

Trump was represented by his trusty sidekick Alina Habba, the lawyer who filed the RICO suit that got him sanctioned in Florida.

A judge fines Trump and his lawyer for a 'frivolous' suit against his political foes January 20, 2023 https://www.npr.org/2023/01/20/1150298957/donald-trump-frivolous-lawsuit-fine-alina-habba-clinton-comey-middlebrooks

[–] breakingcups@lemmy.world 13 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

As if Trump gives a fuck what he supposedly waives. Who's going to sanction him? Who is going to enforce that sanction?

[–] orclev@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago

It's not about sanctions, it's about what could become public. It's basically a free pass for the new york times to demand Trump hand over whatever documents they want and answer any questions they have under oath. Trump could of course ignore them, but that would also cause problems for him. Remember this isn't an individual he's up against at this point, it's a corporation. Corporations are just about the only ones that can actually make our corrupt legal system work because they can dump millions of dollars into legal motions and drag things out over years or even decades.

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

Nothing he does ever comes back to bite him, why would this?

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

“when you go into the office and you’re hearing ‘billionaire,’ even ‘recovering billionaire,’ you don’t expect to see chipped furniture, you don’t expect to smell carpet that needs to be refreshed in the worst, worst way.”

You just know this guy is a fucking slob, right? Like he certainly has staff that takes care of the properties and he still manages to make his home reek and be falling apart. Pair that with his hateful rudeness, his blatant racism, his gaudy Florida-grandma level taste in "decor", his intent to celebrate the 250th anniversary of the US with a fight on the White House lawn.... He's white trash through and through.

[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago

It's also him uncontrollably shitting and pissing himself. His goons hang around him all day, smelling it.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 5 points 15 hours ago

The NYT of all papers - that massively helped the GOP by telling its readers that the only reason Democrats are losing is because they're not Republican enough.

Also yeah fuck Trump etc. he's clearly lost it and showing his true megalomaniac face

[–] tidderuuf@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago

Until it lands in a Trump controlled court. The Times might be getting a hard lesson on the times.