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Has anyone here tried OpenHarmony ? An opensource implementation of Huawei's HarmonyOS which is based on LiteOS ??
We also need a unified effort to turn android devices into linux devices.
why should we use openharmony if there's AOSP? we need more hands, but that's better put on the existing project
OpenHarmony exists too you know & it's being actively maintained. That or We maintain AOSP ourselves.
Reminder OpenHarmony is the AOSP equivalent to HarmonyOS & is maintained by the OpenAtom foundation
ok. but isn't HarmonyOS as a whole a lot younger? why is it a better choice?
Because it's not being railroaded by it's owner unlike Android
we have platforms like that already. several mobile linux distributions, sailfish, whatever. what is the advantage of harmony os? android (as in AOSP) is much more mature all around, the bad parts need to be patched out but then its pretty good. why choose harmony os and leave behind android instead?
Oh my god this person. If google completely closed up Android, then you'd need a mobile friendly OS alternative. I'm fine with linux, but it's gonna take a while to catch up. So meanwhile....... get it ?
Oh my god this person
oh my god! calm down, maybe look at who other people agree with more in this thread.
If google completely closed up Android
that's not possible, because the source code is already publicly available. they can not delete it from the hard drives of custom rom developers.
However if google finished closing up AOSP, what that would mean is no more future development coming from google. that's the same with other projects, including harmony: google does not submit patches there either.
you still did not answer how is harmony os a better option than AOSP
"Sideloading" is such a silly term
It is called installing apps
They are modeling this after Apple's technical response to being forced to allow other app stores.
Would it shock you to learn that Apple revoked the certificates of developers who published apps they didn't like on other app stores e.g. torrent client?
Google will do the same exact thing with apps that impact the profitability of their native services e.g. Newpipe.
My next phone is very likely to be tbe most basic phone I can buy. If I can't use my pc-priced, pc-spec device as the PC it is, I have no use for it.
So... Linux phone when, then?
There are Linux phones now, if you're willing to spend more time tinkering than acturally using it. Oh yeah also you have to use the terminal for practically everything (even audio control in calls).
Oh yeah also you have to use the terminal for practically everything (even audio control in calls).
pfff easy, M-a C-x C-volumedown. Good ol' Emacs.
I can't imagine not having the rich ecosystem of apps.
You don't need to compromise https://jambitlabs.com/waydroid-set-up-with-google-play-gapps/
Isn't Waydroid still based on Android 11 and has compatibility issues with apps that need Google play services?
Default is indeed 11, you can get 13. I haven't run into many compatibility issues on a phone with 9. A lot of Android TVs are on 11, so I suppose it will be supported for a long time to come. There is also the option to download latest compatible versions from APK mirroring sites, and using PWAs within Linux or Android.
What about Google play services? Does it have any support for that or an alternative like MicroG?
Waydroid support MicroG
Oh that one is easy: most stuff is in the browser nowadays.
Ew...
This is were I would like to move. But not really a good option. I have a Linux tablet, desktop, and server but no phone hardware yet that is good for daily use.
List of all Linux phones https://linmob.net/resources/#smartphones
Next gen Jolla Phone https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/next-gen-jolla-phone/23882
I'm surprised the 3.5mm and repairability didn't make it to the top place. Looks like Apple has won once again in imposing their will in the phone market.
On a side note, how is Sailfish OS on the community version (or anyway, the one version that allows you to download Google Play apps)? Is it usable in the day-to-day life?
I don't have experience with linux os on phones. You should ask https://www.reddit.com/user/Mister_Magister/. He is community developer of sailfish os https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1mzla4h/ive_been_daily_driving_and_developing_mobile/
SailfishOS and Ubports looks pretty mature, postmarketOS/Maemo Leste etc also look interesting.
Iβm currently using an iPhone and I had planned to go back to Android the next time I upgraded because I missed F-Droid, Obtainium, and the choice of different browser engines more than I expected. This kind of throws a wrench into that plan. If my choice is between walled garden and walled garden, why switch?
Iβm currently looking into LineageOS to see if the cons of it are something I can tolerate. GrapheneOS seems cool but every pixel Iβve had has been unusable in the summer due to how it heats up and slows down to compensate. This sucks
If i sideload apps, Play framework is frozen (since you can't remove them without bootloop).
Any way around this? As much as I get that it will protect noobs from installing random stuff from the internet and getting scammed, I think having a setting hidden somewhere deep in settings would help not alienate power users.
I guess the real reason is reVanced. Hopefully there will be a way to install it somehow. I would even pay for Premium, but the lack of swipe controls would really hurt my watching habits.
You can install app from Android Debug Bridge (adb). It will bypass all new restriction.
How arduous is that for non developers? Is this something a regular non-technical person can do?
Glad there is a workaround, I'm mostly curious how likely it is to be used.
Adb command line interface is a major barrier for most users. Even with GUI tools built on top of ADB that still a barrier for many users.