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[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 108 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Not only is it a privacy and security issue, it’s also an accessibility issue. Maybe I’m using my desktop to access your website where I can ctrl+ to increase font size, but your shitty unreadable phone app has made zero effort to support accessibility.

It’s particularly annoying for services like DoorDash, instacart, or uber, where some users are specifically using those services due to accessibility issues.

[–] passepartout@feddit.org 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Most accessibility options are already baked into the OS. There should be no need to configure anything related inside the App. You'd have to implement responsive design though, which is not only an accessibility problem but should be common sense by now.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 week ago

Many apps do not respect the text size settings set in the OS. And if they do, they render poorly. And using full screen zoom from the OS is not a good option.

[–] Ephera@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I guess, you didn't necessarily say otherwise, but there's still a high chance that the app offers worse accessibility, even if you've configured everything correctly. Being able to freely manipulate the rendering in your browser, rather than having to live with what the app/OS devs allow you to configure, is crucially important for many accessibility needs.

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[–] El_Scapacabra@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

Yeah I tried increasing the font size in my phone settings, the result is that in most app half of the words just disappear. They still only get the space allotted to them in the app and if they exceed those dimensions, that's just too fucking bad.

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[–] YoiksAndAway@piefed.zip 94 points 1 week ago

"Create a FREE account to continue reading..."

Nope.

"Please turn off your adblocker..."

Nuh-uh.

"This site uses cookies. Please review..."

Also nope.

[–] Sc00ter@lemmy.zip 77 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I got into this with a coffee shop recently. Apparently they were "online order and pickup only." And i went in trying to get coffee. One person was trying to help me, and what i assume was her manager was being a dick.

"Just download the app and put your order in."

"Nah im not going to do that. I just want a black coffee. Nothing fancy."

"We're online only"

other employee rings me up, pours me a cup, and is seemingly just trying to help me gtfo

She hands it to this dude... To hand to me

"Next time, use the app."

"Bro there wont be a next time."

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Pretty nice of them to change business practices for you in that moment.

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[–] PonderousParrot@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

It'd be great if they had a non data-harvesting subsidized pricing tier.

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 10 points 1 week ago

I blast that shit in their reviews.

[–] serpineslair@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I agree with it being terrible practice to be online only. But nothing is forcing you to use their services they are providing. Just go elsewhere, instead of making the employees lives harder. They are just trying to do their job. They probably have to put up with that sort of thing every day. (I'm not having a go at you personally, I never said you did anything wrong, just a rant to other readers who might be a dick to their local customer-facing workers lol).

[–] Sc00ter@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

When i walked in, the one employee actively tried to help me before her manager got in the way. They certainly do have to put up with that every day. There were 3 of us there at the same time who made the same mistake. If it really was such a problem, they wouldn't have set up a stand PoS and a counter and made it look like a regular shop

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 55 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The only reason they went from websites to apps is because with apps they can push notifications.

[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 61 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And they can request location info and other things, and most people just click Allow.

[–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 29 points 1 week ago

on android apps can also request a list of other apps installed, for example the mcdonalds app can check whether the kfc app is installed. it doesn't give apps broad permission to check for every single app on your device (before android 11 that was actually the case), but apps can definitely spy on their competitors that way.

[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

They can also request location info and other things on a website, and people also just need to click Allow.

[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 week ago

And the apps can report your phone's sensor info back to their servers so they can build a profile on you to sell to data brokers.

[–] dev_null@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 week ago

They can also use push notification on websites, and for both websites and apps you have to agree to a system prompt first to allow it to happen.

So that's not the reason.

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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I got one of those "safe driver" transceivers to save money on insurance. It required an app, which I figured would be like a simple bridge that uploads the data from the device to the server.

Holy mackerel, was it full of additional spyware. I was already a little uneasy sending driving data to a private company, but this would potentially be sending constant phone tracking. No thanks!

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah, I tried the same many years ago. Problem was that I had a super tiny car in a big city where everyone speeds all the time, so it never gave me a discount because I was always speeding and breaking harshly.

How can I be a smooth driver when no one else is? It also dinged me for driving at night when I was doing a volunteer job in the evening while my day job was WFH. Such BS.

[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I mean it uses location and acceleration info for driving habits. What did you expect?

[–] MrQuallzin@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oh it gets worse than just that. I did the same for a while, and when we first started the permissions that app wanted were reasonable considering what it does.

We dropped it and took the higher rate earlier this year once the app started asking for a lot more permissions, like biometric and health data to "verify if we're walking or driving".

[–] famijoku@feddit.org 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“nah I broke the speed limit on foot”

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[–] tiramichu@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Not OP, but I would want it to be just a black box with GPS, accelerometer, mobile data and everything else it needs for its function to be built right in.

There's no need for such a device to pair with your phone, unless they are trying to be greedy and slurp extra data.

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[–] OboTheHobo@ttrpg.network 37 points 1 week ago (2 children)

In the modern age so many things that should just be websites are apps and many things that should be apps/programs are websites

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Can track you and see more invasive details from your device that way, more than just cookies.

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Things generally want to keep you engaged - and a native mobile app, even if otherwise functionally the same as a webpage, has somewhat more of a chance to get you to accept push notifications to spam you.

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[–] 93maddie94@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I was concerned when my kid started soccer and they wanted parents to get an app to get updates on cancellations and to see the game and practice schedule. Fortunately there is a browser version and the app is not necessary. They just don’t advertise this.

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I went to a dentist's office that promoted how easy it was to schedule a appointment and manage your records on their app.

I usually am much more polite but I flipped and said, "I don't want a app for that!" And scared the front desk staff.

[–] Landless2029@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

I walked into Walmart for the first time in years to return the shitty thing I bought.

The cashier at returns mentioned thier app makes returns easy as I flip through photos of receipts on my phone.

"I'm sure it does but I don't install non critical apps. I don't need Walmart looking at my phone, tracking me or pushing notifications"

She just shrugged.

[–] feannag@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Whereas my child's doctor appointments and records are only available via app and don't have a website. And the app is no longer supported on my phone OS so I have to run the previous version. I hate this.

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[–] gnomesaiyan@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I love when you download it and you have to enter credit card information for a trial. Take a walk!

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Theres a dark pattern where a service makes you fill out a form, choose your actions, get to 95% done and then hits you with a Credit card request, assuming you already made it this far.

Who are they fooling?

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[–] hedge_lord@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I must generate a qr code. I search for sites to do this. The first result lets me do this but requires an email to download the thing. The second result lets me do this but requires an email to download the thing. The third result lets me do this but requires an email to download the thing. Each of them display the generated qr code on screen but then refuse to let me download it. Technology sure is amazing.

[–] toddestan@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Unfortunately there's way too much of these leeches who charge for stuff that is otherwise free, then use spammy SEO techniques to bury the free options.

As for QR code generation, DuckDuckGo has a built-in generator that's always worked for me. For example: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=qr+Visit+Lemmy.World+-%3E+https%3A%2F%2Flemmy.world

[–] dondelelcaro@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Probably not useful in your case, but:

apt install qrencode
qrencode -t svg -o example.svg https://example.com/
[–] Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio 7 points 1 week ago

Can you use a snipping tool or screenshot that shit? Otherwise, throwaway email lol.

[–] fading_person@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

Duckduckgo is pretty convenient for quickly generating qr codes. You just type qr followed by its contents into the search box and you get a qr as result.

[–] jws_shadotak@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
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[–] victorz@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

One of the best meme templates I've seen in a while lmao

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I love it because he reminds me of an old friend I had who was a very pragmatic person and often just threw his hands up and moved on when shit got dramatic.

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[–] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I'm finding it funny because around here most cars are manual, and when I got my driver's licence I was strongly warned that looking back instead of using the mirrors would be immediate failure.

[–] MrQuallzin@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Based on your username in guessing you're German? (Apologies if I'm wrong). Here in the USA when I first got my license in the state of Oregon it was the opposite. If you weren't looking backwards while reversing and using only your mirrors, you'd be docked points on your exam.

[–] blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io 4 points 1 week ago

I'm from a Germanic colony in south Brazil. I don't know how they do in Germany.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Smaller cars I would definitely look back, because you get a wider view, but it's also situational. If you need to quickly alternate between left and right side I would use mirrors, especially if squeezing in somewhere.

Especially with an SUV like we have now, looking back does nothing. Small rear window, all I see is back seats. Now I use mirrors and top-view mode + rear view on reversing cameras that surround the vehicle.

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[–] QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For any tourists in Finland, here is also some advice:

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)
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[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This but for survey, with umbrella as a gift.

No thanks, ain't gonna download no app for an umbrella.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Don't forget about the data they can mine from your phone!

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