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[–] Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

No surprise that these ghouls can't see a problem with the failed US policy in regards Israel and Palestine.

The rest of the west should carry on. This should be the beginning of the medium powers working more cloesly together, outside of the coordinating influence of the major power.

[–] Zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Countries are legally bound by the 1948 Genocide Convention to oppose genocides, something that recognizing the self-determination rights of the Palestinian people before they are wiped out entirely is consistent with, whether or not Republicans recognize it.

[–] Seagoon_@aussie.zone 5 points 2 days ago

agreed

and we should investigate this genocide thoroughly and then enact justice

I've been supporting self determination for a long time

they need some kind of convention to determine what kind of country they want

what kind of economy

what kind of political system and what kind of relationship between government and citizens

what kind of freedoms and rights for the people

what kind of social support system

what kind of infrastructure

what kind of checks and balances on government

what foreign policies

[–] Seagoon_@aussie.zone 13 points 2 days ago

Republicans can fuck off. Who do they think they are

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago

The US has already shown it doesn't follow the UN, so why should anyone want to listen to the US?

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

There's a reason the United States historically has not tried to bully every other nation simultaneously. Bully a few choice other nations? Sure, you can get away with that. Try to bully everyone else at once? That's a different matter.

I think of it like kids on a playground. Schoolyard bullies tend to pick just a handful of targets to direct their ire against. If they tried to bully everyone, they would quickly find themselves completely alone and isolated. Bully everyone and you immediately drop to the bottom of the social totem pole. Bully a few and most will just want to be left out of it, and a few will join in. Bullying is something that only works on a small scale.

What is true for children is true for nations. Tariff a few particularly vile adversaries? You can sway global trade around entire countries. If nations have to choose between trading with a pariah state like North Korea or with the United States, they're going to pick the United States. Try to tariff the majority of the world's population or economic productivity? Suddenly you're not punishing a few bad actors, you're simply disconnecting the United States from the global trade system. You're cutting your nation off from the vast majority of the productive, creative, and innovative capacity of the planet. In a rapidly advancing world, that is the last thing any sane nation wants to do. Yet, we plod on regardless...

[–] Tenderizer@aussie.zone 2 points 1 day ago

This is exactly what I've been afraid of. Americans have couped our leaders before and Australia recognizing Palestine seems to have been a big deal. I think Albanese has a strong handle on the internal party politics and I think the arithmetic of what happened to Whitlam would be difficult though.

The most likely approach would be to take unfavourable actions towards Australia as a whole and hope it costs Albo the election.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 5 points 2 days ago

Republicans really can't just mind their own fucking business, can they?

[–] zorflieg@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Ignore threats from the party unless it comes the president, and if it does, TACO. Carry on.