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[–] missfrizzle@discuss.tchncs.de 93 points 6 days ago (15 children)

I love trans-inclusive radical misogyny. it's so blursed. imagine if we had this instead of terfs.

[–] stray@pawb.social 15 points 6 days ago

You've got me thinking about Pride and Prejudice and how Darcy's flavor of misogyny could be interpreted as hatred of patriarchal limitations on the social class "women" rather than a hatred of what women actually are. That is, he hates the behavior women act out as part of a performance they've been forced into, but he doesn't fully think through the concept of systemic oppression because he has no educational background to support that level of introspection, and so he's left blaming women. I'm sure there's probably quite a lot of writing on that angle already, but it's the first time it's ever occurred to me.

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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 87 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Amazing. On the surface everything I read is bigotry and disdain, but I can't help liking the guy. At the very least he seems to have the consistency to choose his very own flavor of bigotry.

Not humor though; as far as I understand OOP he's 100% serious. Maybe one of those people that are kinda half aware that they're being an asshole just for conversation.

[–] stray@pawb.social 15 points 6 days ago

He sounds pretty autistic, and I mean that somewhat affectionately and not at all as an insult. His manner of thinking feels personally familiar to me.

Say we lived in a society that let dogs vote. You wouldn't have to hate dogs to be real about the fact that they're not our intellectual equals and to be frustrated with a system that gives them decision power that affects everyone in society. And you'd be even more frustrated when people around you say you're a bad person for being dog-phobic.

I think that's the internal world he's living in, based on a series of false premises that he genuinely believes to be true. I think that if these false facts were corrected then his conclusions would naturally improve. It's how it worked for me.

[–] DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world 67 points 6 days ago
[–] krakenfury@lemmy.sdf.org 50 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"pick a fucking struggle" Is now my favorite thing

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 days ago

Being a guy sucks, being a girl sucks. You don't get to opt out! Life must also be shit for you!

damn this is gold. that guy's a genius. he might have weird views but at least they're consistent and well thought-through (edit: except the "women are all stupid" part).

i also really cackled at the "damn, cheese, gender, what else do they deny themselves?" as if a gender is something you're enjoying. really brightens my day that some people see it that way so instinctively.

[–] Someplaceunknown@leminal.space 24 points 6 days ago

I want MORE

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 28 points 6 days ago

What a fascinating specimen... I wish we had more.

[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 6 days ago

I hope the updates keep coming. We need to study this goober.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

Lowkey, this is how you make "allies" XD

[–] NovaSel@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago

...what on Earth did I just read?

[–] Walk_blesseD@piefed.blahaj.zone 14 points 6 days ago

That's just the average lemmy user (derogatory)

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 10 points 6 days ago (2 children)

TBH I think misogyny is much more deeply rooted in society than transphobia.

And here's the controversial take that'll bring me a lot of hate: the root of transness itself is somewhere between misogyny and misandry. Our generation can't defeat that, but we can target transphobia and hope that our children will come for misogyny and misandry 💪💪💪

the root of transness itself is somewhere between misogyny and misandry

That is the worst possible way you could say that. Even if you think people embracing gender norms for euphoria unintentionally reinforces harmful divisions, that isn't something inherent to transness itself. We can have gender without mistreating people for it; it's just an ongoing struggle to minimize mistreating people.

[–] stray@pawb.social 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

the root of transness itself is somewhere between misogyny and misandry.

What makes you feel that way? How does it jibe with people who reject both male and female identities, or who embrace both?

[–] huppakee@piefed.social 15 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Is there a pool going on whether "Not Gay Name" is actually gay too? He sounds so closeted, it'd be easy money.

[–] stray@pawb.social 13 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I don't think so because he seems jealous of the bisexual person. I think for him it would be better to have a male partner, since they're so much more competent, but that he unfortunately only finds himself attracted to women.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 3 points 6 days ago

Don't forget berating the bi OOP for having "shit taste" in men

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[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

I'd go in on that pool. None of his reactions exude disgust or distaste - more just an internal logic of possible inconveniences, compromises, or difficulties for those that are gay - such as not being seen as attractive by other gays, or discrimination/harassment.

Definitely seems like he's thought it through and that these could be his own counterarguments for coming out that he came up with.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Ah, "tsundere."

Well, it's something I guess?

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