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[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

What absolutely kills me about SGU is that the overall premise was incredible. Destiny itself, nevermind the way they even got to the ship in the first place, were just great ideas full of all kinds of plot potential. Put the cast inside a giant flying puzzlebox in space? Genius.

I get that this was concocted on the heels of Battlestar Galactica, which was wall-to-wall internal conflict when the Cylons weren't wrecking house. And... sometimes during. But all those characters had compelling character traits, relatable motivations, and had their humanity shine through all of it - even the frakking Cylon characters! It's a good idea to stick to what works, and what your audience is flocking to go see. what could go wrong?

As it turns out: everything can go wrong. The comic is correct: nobody in the cast is likeable. SGU's writing team wrote themselves into a corner on the first episode, with a bunch of assholes trapped together in what can only be described as the escape-room squad from hell. This undermines the show's premise from the outset, as though Stargate Command didn't bother to assess anyone's personality for the project. Then they undermine every plotline with needless conniving, scheming, and back-biting, with no apparent grasp on the instinctive survival benefits to cooperation. Then they use the body-snaching-ansible-thing to be even more dickish to each other's personal lives and families, back on Earth. Our suspension of disbelief is broken through incompetence at every level of SGC through to the cast itself, then kicked into the dirt even harder by stupendous levels of bad psychology, and finally shot in the head by just a miserable viewing experience.

To be more succinct, I hate this kind of story for the same reason I dislike zombie dramas: It often requires character-breaking incompetence to move the story forward.

The effects, set-work, costuming, and initial concept are all cool as hell though. It all deserves a kind of spiritual reboot.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You take that back!

The ship is THE MAIN character, and she is fantastic.

[–] FluorideMind@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

There's no ship in Stargate.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The Chief has had a few too many synth-ales today. I'll take him home, don't you worry.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 5 points 2 days ago

gently rubs a random wall panel

It's okay, Destiny, they dont have anything against you.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] SARGE@startrek.website 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Prometheus, Daedalus, Apollo, Oddysey, George Hammond, Sun Tsu, Korolev, Hippaforalkus (Orion), Tria, Aurora, and a bunch of asgard ships that I don't remember the names of besides the SG1 namesake.

Although only a few of those I've named take central role in any episode.

Of course, the Destiny is always there, gently humming in the background... Going about it's multi-million-year journey.

[–] omgboom@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't forget the puddle jumpers

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Ahem. Gateships.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I believe there was both an O'Neill and a Daniel Jackson for the Asgard ships at least.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I only really remember hating the main scientist/doctor dude. But I also barely remember the show at this point.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

But I also barely remember the show at this point.

You should start rewatching it as weekly episodes/doubles and by the time you finish well probably have new Stargate show.

They had a hmmm some sort of script/screenplay but then the strikes/pandemic hit a few years ago. Most of the old cast would be ready to come back and the creators are looking to make it and almost had it in pre-production.

So yeah prolly gonna come back at some point

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

What, you don't remember "Virgin gamer foreveralone stereotype" or "Womanizing chad stereotype"? Or the commander whose main characteristic was seemingly cheating on his wife, yet we were supposed to like him or something and feel sad when Lou Diamond Phillips sleeps with his wife? Or the main female lead who was defined by her dad being Shooter McGavin who dies in the first episode, then sleeping with chad?

[–] Nemo@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 days ago

Wait a minute, Bojack Horseman isn't SciFi...

The writers: I have an idea…

The fans: What do you think this is? HAMLET? GONE WITH THE WIND? RUGGLES OF RED GAP? It's a goddamn B picture! Big men in tights! You know the drill