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[–] felsiq@piefed.zip 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

One thing I haven’t seen anyone mention yet is upgrade potential - on the intel system, you could move to an i7 or i9 from the same generation but you can’t get anything newer without replacing the motherboard as well. The amd one is AM5 and you’ll be able to pop a new CPU in for like the next six years - odds are good you’d want to upgrade the cpu by then anyway, so expect the amd option to save you the cost of a motherboard down the road. It also gives you a 750W psu rather than a 650, so there’s a higher chance you won’t have to replace that too on your next upgrade.

In terms of performance between the two, i’d actually expect the intel to be a marginally faster cpu and have better connectivity (AMD’s 8000 series is a bit weird compared to their 7000 or 9000 series options, and lack some pcie lanes compared to a standard gaming cpu). This isn’t a super relevant difference for gaming, but still worth knowing for comparing the computers. On the GPU front, which is the most important part for games, the 9070 is way better and this is probably where the price difference comes from. I’d expect the amd system to be noticeably better for gaming, though honestly the price to performance between the two computers probably tracks pretty well.

The other option worth considering is building a pc, which will let you pick a better cpu, MUCH better ram, a faster + more reliable ssd, and your choice of case vs either of these two pcs. I don’t know what the price of that would look like in your market, so maybe not worthwhile, but I’d def recommend checking out the option at least because both of these prebuilts are skimping a little on ram and probably on the mobo/psu/cooling as well.

[–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The amd one is AM5 and you’ll be able to pop a new CPU in for like the next six years

AM5 will lose support in 2027 unless it's extended further, no? Six years from today is probably an overstatement, but I still agree with the general sentiment if we know now that there could be good upgrade options for the future.

[–] felsiq@piefed.zip 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Honestly I’m basing this more on the fact amd is STILL out here releasing new am4 cpus than on their stated timelines, they just don’t know when to give up on a socket no matter what they claim (not complaining tho)

[–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

You are right, I hope their track record continues, AM4 has been amazing.

I'm only slightly worried myself because I believe a few years ago they tried to silently drop 5000 series support from b450 boards or something like that, but then reversed that decision after backlash. Makes me think they could try that again, but so far I think they have course corrected successfully. Maybe I'm being slightly pessimistic by thinking they'll try something similar again.

[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Personally I would go with the AMD one, but would increase RAM to at least 32GB and maybe downgrade GPU/CPU to compensate the price if needed.

My reasons are:

  • Ryzen CPUs are better for multitasking
  • AMD GPUs work better on Linux
[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A mix of both preferably - AMD cpu + Nvidia GPU. 32GB of RAM as well.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 day ago

Nvidia GPU

It's been an hour, I'm surprised nobody has jumped down your throat about this.

[–] Robin@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think the price difference would more more less reflect in the perofrmance difference for these setups. So whatever you need and can affort is the right choice. Unless you intend to install linux, then the AMD one for sure.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There wouldn't be any major problems with the AMD kit? AMD is the more stable GPU on linux

[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's his point, if OP will use Linux, then AMD is better.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Unless you intend to install linux, then the AMD one for sure.

The only way I'm capable of reading this is a general recommendation for the AMD kit, with the exception of Linux use cases

[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's the other way around: X, Unless Y, then Z means that in the case of Y, Z is true. A similar grammatical example would be You should work, Unless you're sick, then you should rest

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago

That seems to be how they meant it, so I'll chalk it up to misreading the context

[–] Robin@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Sorry if I wasn't clear. I did mean OP should not consider NVidia + Linux

[–] Twakyr@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

Build it yourself

[–] Ibaudia@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

On Lemmy, everyone will say AMD. On the rest of the net most people will probably say Intel+Nvidia. Difference is just the software that's available. I would go with the AMD one personally.

[–] kinther@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

AMD has great Linux support.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 day ago

And it's not even close. FOSS developers who have to deal with Nvidia on anything seem to hate it with a passion.

[–] anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Intel supports genocide and is directly called out by BDS for its crimes. Go AMD instead.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also Intel CPU's have a reputation for being space heaters

[–] dogs0n@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Even their latest gens? I thought they started heavily investing in e-cores to reduce power consumption (heat).

In general though, their CPUs seem to have had a lot of issues recently and they look to be in a rough situation right now.

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Especially their new ones. They're better at generating heat than they are at executing code.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I'm not certain. They may have fixed the overheating. I still think it's worse performance than a similar spec AMD processor.

[–] msmc101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 days ago
[–] rowinxavier@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I would go AMD for the reasons others have said, but also for long term driver performance. NVidia has shown over time that their cards stay the same for performance, meaning very little long term increase from driver improvements. AMD on the other hand has had long term driver improvements leading to longer life and better performance. Your nVidia option would start to feel crappy earlier than a matching AMD card. Also, if you can afford it the AMD is a more performant option. And consider making sure you have room to upgrade the RAM. If there are only two slots and both are full you will have to replace the RAM, but if there are two free slots you could add another 16GB later for a good boost.

[–] Tracaine@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As with most things, the answer is: it depends. More contextual information please.

[–] Bidah@thelemmy.club 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] victorz@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Linux? AMD. Windows? AMD. Go with the AMD one. You won't regret it.

I have a 9950X3D, and a 9070 XT working together. Runs everything I want super smoothly at max settings. 👍

[–] ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

That's still not a lot of info. What kind of games do you want to play? Do you want to play the latest games at max graphics? Are you playing older games? FPS, moba, strategy? Those all have dramatically different requirements. Do you want to use ray tracing? Most importantly, do you want Linux of Windows?

[–] Exulion@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Why these choices in particular?

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 days ago

I assume you want this for gaming? I'd probably go with the AMD kit

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Raptor lake sort of sucked. I would look for an arrow lake cpu if you can.

Amd of the same generation were better at that time. I’d get amd over that intel cpu.

[–] crimsonpoodle@pawb.social 0 points 2 days ago

Depends on what games your playing. Would maybe bump ram at the expense of gpu or cpu. If your playing RTS like beyond all reason or city skylines then get better cpu— if splashy fps— it depends— but maybe better GPU.