Maybe this would be a push for a real open source based phone. GNU/Linux phones needed this push to really get more popularity
this post was submitted on 23 Sep 2025
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Not if age verification apps have any say.
https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/av-doc-technical-specification/issues/18
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I hope this means the resurgence of cheap flip phones. I have no use for a pocket computer that I can't use like a computer. I went with Android because iOS was useless, and now Android is about to be made equally useless.
Will be interesting to see how many people move over to iOS now that Google is trashing Android's redeeming feature.
I've enabled the advanced protection and it's so easy to turn off to install a single app and turn back on but I haven't seen it as an issue. Is there something new now? Because I'm not seeing an issue here.
Yes they are, for all intents and purposes, making it impossible to turn off advanced protection. The only way to install unverified apps will be via developer mode and if you turn that on a bunch of apps refuse to run until you turn it back off
Can't you just switch off Play Protect entirely?
The only way to install unverified apps will be via developer mode and if you turn that on a bunch of apps refuse to run until you turn it back off.
Wait, when did this become a thing? I've had developer mode turned on on my phone for ages without any issues.
Not sure when exactly but some banking apps in the UK refuse to run if they detect developer mode is enabled and, given the general trend towards locking everything down, I expect many other mainstream apps to enforce these checks at some point.
I guess one could run two phones, an official phone for banking etc and another one with dev mode for pissing around but these rules will reduce the number of people who install unverified apps to a very small number
Well fuck that then. I guess I'm going to have to get a graphene OS put on this mother fucker.
That's really too bad because I did appreciate all the other features of advanced protection except for that.
Presumably, rooted users/custom ROMs should be able to get around this, but how many developers are going to continue to support development and/or release .apk files if it's only a tiny subset of the userbase they can reach?
The EU would like you all to bend a little lower and gag
https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/av-doc-technical-specification/issues/18
Still sucks for the OSS community as a whole though.
Didn't Google just fuck with them by making it really hard to developed graphene for pixel 10? If graphene os depends on the aging fleet of pixel 9s and older, they're a few years away from being screwed too.
Yeah sort of. I think they're working with an OEM so they do get security patches early, but yeah. They stopped publishing the reference device tree or something and now it's harder to support new pixels AFAIK. Yes. I imagine graphene is going to try to switch to a new OEM phone they can have more control over, but we'll see. Really sucks and fuck google. They're just trying to lock android down like apple to ensure they get a % of all profits. (IMO)
Well, I never gave them permission to install Google Chrome. Maybe they should start thinking about their self first...
Ive had grapheneOS for years, is every customer android rom done for? I may just get a "dumbphone" or maybe back to iphone? I wish I could just have no phone but obviously need close family to contact me at anytime
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not sure how these are, but i'm planning on getting one at some point. These should have some other os called murena, which is close to android but not quite, according to the website.
based on android. similarly to how samsungs and xiaom8s system is also based on it.
as long as google doesnt control it, its good enough for me
HarmonyOS ? Technically OpenHarmony ?
it has come to the point that i might consider even chinese controlled stuff over google, though i would prefer european software. I'm just so sick and tired of all this bullshit.
I've been an android user for a long ass time. I want to install grapheneOS on my next phone since my current Samsung S23 won't allow that. After that, what would be my options?
Any of the recent Pixels, though I'm not sure about the 10. And that's it.
I'm running Graphene on a 9 and it's solid.
I'm not sure about the 10.
Exactly the problem; current phones are good for the short-to-medium term, for anyone willing to use aging hardware, but what are the long-term prospects?
I'm hoping this will increase true open source phone OS development, like a Linux phone, but we'll see. If there's a way to really get Android or iOS apps onto a Linux phone (after these changes) then true open-source apps can fill most use-cases, but everyday users can still use the latest games/apps they expect to "just work". That might be the ideal future option, at least until if/when Linux gets enough market share to get its own mainstream support (like the Steam Deck has brought to gaming).
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