Fucking hell did she really need to throw in the red scare bullshit?
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So the headline is misleading at best but i still feel like the ambiguity raised by inserting a term like that was just piss poor form and just about par for the course on both journalism and the messaging clarity of the DNC.
“We used to compare the strength of our democracy to communist dictators. That’s what we’re dealing with right now in Donald Trump.
It isn't that ambiguous.
Her calling a fascist capitalist a communist shows how she is not equipped to deal with America's problems though.
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Ma'am, with the greatest possible respect, Trump is as much a communist as the Nazis were socialists.
He's redistributing wealth among the people, it's just you're not people
He's a fascist dictator, not a communist one. And when the 'titans of industry' care more about their bottom line than democratic principles, that's a sign to rally against them, not frame one's argument with an echo of McCarthyism.
Harris continues to demonstrate that she is not only was too incompetent for the job, but also 1/3 of the reason we have a fascist administration. The other 2/3 belong to Biden and the DNC for the curious. I don't think she's too uneducated to know the difference between communism and fascism, i belive she's intentionally conflating the two because at the end of the day, she's still a right wing pig.
So you don't blame the actual fascists in your mathematics?
I dont think we're trying to constructively critisize or reform the nazi party currently
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Propaganda against socialism and communism still going strong in the usa
Never went away, never will.
The country is founded on personal gain, it's the foundation that it was bloodily built on from the very beginning. It would undermine everything that our current beneficiaries of this legacy stand for to even remotely embrace socialism.
The idea was to pump "rugged individualism" until there were no communities left, and then everyone who managed to shave off the most cash can fuck off to other countries or their own yachts in the ocean.
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How the hell is Trump a communist? What is she smoking damn.
The support for capitalism over all else is expected, neoliberals do little else, but this level of delusion? Worrying.
He did nationalise 10% of Intel. Without paying for it, even, if I understand correctly.
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Americans use the word communism as pejorative without having even slightest idea what it actually means. In this case she is speaking language that majority of Americans will understand
Americans understand the word "dictator" even if you don't put "communist" in front of it. This was a choice that doesn't make any sense. It only annoys the minority of people who understand what words mean.
Whatever fingers you want to point regarding Harris' (and Democrats') relationship with voters to the left of them, this is simply antagonizing. Politicians will tell enormous lies to court the right, but won't tell the truth to court the left.
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These people don't even know what a communist is. They just have "red bad" drilled so far into their heads that it's right next to "woke" as a catch-all term for bad things.
She still doesn't get it. Capitalism inevitably leads to fascism. It's a core feature.
Capitalism leads to corporate monopolies leads to fascism.
Yes. I really don't get it. Everybody has played monopoly but it seems like nobody has learned the lessons of the game.
No one ever finished playing monopoly. Everyone always quit in boredom and frustration before the end.
Unregulated capitalism CAN lead to fascism.
It doesn’t have to.
Just like communism all around the world has similarly basically always led to fascism and dictatorship, but it doesn’t have to.
Humans are always the problem. Plans don’t meet humans well.
Just like communism all around the world has similarly basically always led to fascism and dictatorshipv
It hasn't "led" to anything; Marxist-Leninism is explicitly authoritarian. That said, it's not fascism, that is not what that word means.
Unregulated capitalism CAN lead to fascism.
We're on our second run of capitalism leading to fascism across the Western world in the exact same way along the exact same fault lines.
Plans don’t meet humans well.
An economic system isn't a plan; it's the context within which economic activity (including said plans) take place.
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Trump is exhibiting classic dictator behaviors. Dictatorships are not exclusively right or left. History is full of dictators who use "communism" or fascism as a base.
This is where people conflate and confuse things like the FL Cubans who didn't like Kamala because "she's a socialist/Communist and I came from a country with a bad leader like that!"
They can't distinguish a ruling style from the underlying governing structure.
A dictator is a dictator is a dictator.
And you can look at dictatorial regimes across the spectrum and it's the authoritarianism and the dictator that is the common thread.
Harris is certainly well educated enough to know that Trump is not a communist; presumably these dipshit comments are for right-wingers, because she's trying to appeal to them again.
Goddamned neoliberals
They literally exist just to kill leftism in the united states now. No other benefits offered
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Misleading, editorialized title. Any worthwhile journalist wouldn't quote somebody on words they didn't literally say.
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I mean so close, I do understand what she's trying to get across with things like Intel, yet absolutely dumb messaging.
Kamala going back to american basics: all communist = bad --> all bad = communist.
Yeah, completely overloaded and missed used term at this point that doesn't reflect the realities of anything in today's world outside of antiquated boomer speak.
She needed to grow a spine and say fascist.
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Even when attacking Trump, Democrats can't resist taking swipes at leftists...
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Democracy sustains capitalism. Capitalism thrives in a democracy
Exactly what a neoliberal would say.
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Well. That tells me all I need to hear. The DNC had decided to lose. Again.
Good luck. You're gonna need it.
hilarious to hear Americans use terms like Socialist, Communist, Fascist even at the levels of supposedly highly educated and clearly they have no idea what they are talking about.
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You are not interpreting this correctly, and neither is TheHill / Independent / whatever.
Think about it step by step.
- Some time ago, America was hardcore opposed to the USSR and the Communist bloc. Americans like her grew up hearing comparisons with Communist dictators and how they did X, Y, and Z. The bogeyman many people grew up with was a communist dictator who hated free speech, co-opted the state and therefore personally controlled industry, cracked down on artistic expression...
- That's what we're dealing with now. Not from the perspective of a McCarthy Boogeyman; Kamala isn't saying he's a communist. But from the adult perspective where we're supposed to care about free speech, a private industry, liberal art... Trump is the thing people grew up hearing about.
Tldr; Kamala didn't say this. This never happened. Watch the interview and think about what she means. Journalism strikes again~
Edit: Here's a simpler example: "We went years hearing from the right about demonic liberals abusing kids. Well Trump is that—that's what we're dealing with now."
That isn't saying Trump is a demonic liberal. It means "the thing everyone hated is here in a different form"
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Wow and Harris just airballs it. Jesus.
In point of fact, capitalism is demonstrably quite enamored with authoritarianism in more places than just the US.
Did she actually say the quote in the title? Or is that the editor's work? In context it seems like she was causing Trump a tyrant, as are communist dictators, but not a communist:
She was pressed on MSNBC’s “The Rachel Maddow Show” about why she didn’t anticipate such action and responded that she believed “titans of industry would be guardrails for our democracy.”
“And one by one by one, they have been silent, they have been … feckless,” Harris said. “It’s not like they’re going to lose their yacht or their house in the Hamptons.”
“Democracy sustains capitalism. Capitalism thrives in a democracy. And, right now, we are dealing with, as I called him at my speech on the Ellipse, a tyrant,” she said, referencing her rally last year on the White House Ellipse in Washington. “We used to compare the strength of our democracy to communist dictators. That’s what we’re dealing with right now in Donald Trump. And these titans of industry are not speaking up,”
Maybe I'm being too charitable. But that's how I read it, perhaps because I don't want to believe that senior Democrats can't tell a communist from a fascist.
She'll say anything but criticizing Israel. That's why she lost.
"Trump bad, just as bad as communism, did I already say communism bad? Votes please"
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