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[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Here's how this works:

  1. Network is created that doesn't discriminate on speech.
  2. The left wins debates and it becomes increasingly liberal over time.
  3. Far right billionaires buy it to stop those process.
[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

That's why decentralized platforms have to be the answer. They might not be impossible to co-opt, but they're certainly more difficult.

I've been warning people about this stuff for years, and they wouldn't listen. I'm not happy about being right. It sucks!

[–] RandomlyGeneratedName@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Loops and other fediverse platforms are more important than ever. We need independent social media - not billionaire owned platforms.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What does it take to get people to switch, though? The owner of X did a Nazi salute in front of a national audience. Twice. And most people are still on there.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

They just don't care or don't even see it because they live in their personal bubble of like, sports news and little more.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

I'm mainly talking about celebrities and other "taste-makers".

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[–] PeacefulForest@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah I just hope it kills the app, which I’m sure it will. I never began using it in the first place but seeing it take over all of my fellow Gen Z, you know, the same ones who have admitted to thinking politics don’t matter, won’t be very happy when their favorite app turns to even more utter trash

Hopefully this wins more minds away from social media and even more people can wake the fuck up here in Amerikkka.

[–] edgyspazkid@lemmy.wtf 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I think people won't care, at least this demographic fellow Gen Z. They still gonna use the app. Arguemnts such as "oh everyone uses this to send funny tiktoks to themselves it's not that big of a deal" it will be just more shit to go through. Similar thing to Twitter. Everyone is so pissed at Elon because more bot accounts, you can't or couldn't block him and other shady stuff but still uses the twitter (X) because... everyone uses it.

But I also hope it will kill the app.

[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m seeing people moving to sky (or whatever it’s called). It takes time for people to switch social media platforms.

[–] edgyspazkid@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Oh yeah true. Some people switched to Bluesky (I think that what you meant). I remember the (especially artists) moved like 2-3 years ago because all this changes about feeding the AI and Twitter just being garbage (all porn bots and people being hateful about anything you do).

[–] zululove@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Fake and lame

[–] F_State@midwest.social 29 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Unsurprising that a guy collapsing the Republic into a fascist dictatorship says that TikTok should be a mouthpiece for the Government. It's time for someone in a country that ISN'T the US, Russia, or China to start a TikTok rival for people to switch to.

[–] favoredponcho@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I was wondering if a federated alternative existed, neat. Short form video is not for me, but I'm glad that exists for those that like it.

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[–] TuffNutzes@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

It's already shite, but why stop there!

[–] Auth@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I dont care. At this point I just want something to contain them. Whatever app it must be please just dont let them leak onto the rest of the internet.

[–] modernangel@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 day ago

Trump says TikTok should be tweaked to become “100% Epstein files”

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

When Xi is the only way to save the US.

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 12 points 1 day ago

I'm sure it really depends on where you live, but here in East Europe I've noticed tiktokkers slowly turning into Z'ers who start accepting Russian disinfo as facts. Meaning, it's already pro-MAGA

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 34 points 2 days ago (3 children)

So, Trump effectively nationalized TikTok, valued at $300b. He sells it to friendly oligarchs for $15b. So far, this is basically the post-USSR playbook, and how Roman Abravmovich, Alisher Usmanov, Vladimir Lisin, etc. got so rich.

But it might piss off his oligarch buddies if he drives all the users off TikTok making what seemed like a steal into something worthless instead.

[–] bigfondue@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think that just like Elon with Twitter, the value is not in revenue but controlling the narrative.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

That only works if people use it.

For some reason, people have stuck with Twitter. But, the users of TikTok are not the same as the users of Twitter, so who knows, maybe they won't stick with it.

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[–] Unpeeled3828@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I already moved to redgifs. Goodbye Tik Tok.

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[–] arsCynic@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Brain rot only for the right… 28 TikToks Later…

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How the fuck do you think we got MAGA to begin with?

[–] arsCynic@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

By using unfriendly language online?

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[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 72 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The open corruption, clear as day illegal and unconstitutional moves, and his overall smugness is embarrassing.

The GOP has gone insane to allow this man to continue like this. They are all sick with power and are hoping to "get theirs" next from daddy trump.

They are ALL traitors and should be charged for allowing the crimes to continue.

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[–] art@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Had to leave Twitter when it became a Nazi site, I can leave TikTok to I guess.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 19 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I never used either. Never really understood the culture of gormlessly scrolling through mind-numbing content.

But then I also gave up broadcast TV before even Netflix was popular. Just spent a small fortune on bargain bin DVDs instead.

[–] Bruhh@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago

me nervously doom-scrolling on lemmy via voyager 👀

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[–] midtsveen@lemmy.wtf 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

You know, given how exploitative and harmful TikTok has been from the start, it might have been better never to use it at all.

I'm guilty of being on TikTok too, mainly used to keep up with a few artists I listen to, but at the end of the day, the platform is just another exploitative data-harvesting machine.

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pretty sure cults are maga (talking about spawnism).

[–] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 385 points 3 days ago (13 children)

We actually live in a world now in which the President of the United States explicitly states his intent to overtly violate the first amendment and the media just repeats it as if nothing of any note is going on.

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Wow that sounds like a fun way to bankrupt another company

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[–] Kurious84 9 points 1 day ago

And renamed to Hate Tok

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 32 points 2 days ago

In other words, trump says "Stop looking for the Epstein files!".

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[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 121 points 3 days ago
[–] the_wise_wolf@feddit.org 37 points 2 days ago (4 children)
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