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Well I can no longer be part of the beta program... (lemmy.zip)
submitted 2 weeks ago by ramble81@lemmy.zip to c/apple_enthusiast@lemmy.world
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I have a 15 Pro 128GB and I can no longer install betas with their sheer size and how much the current OS takes up.

  • OS: 32.5GB
  • System Data: 26GB
  • Update: 22GB

That’s over 80GB just for iOS, which is almost 2/3 of the storage space. Annoyingly part of the OS is a 12GB reserve for updates but that doesn’t count for beta installs.

This is just getting way too bloated in an attempt to force people to pay for more storage. I’ve already offloaded a chunk of things to “the cloud” but that’s well beyond what I can keep coming up with.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

attempt to force people to pay for more storage

Also, can we acknowledge how absurd this is?

And before we go into “Apple uses fast storage”, a 256GB PCIe SSD, with the controller and interface and everything, is $30 retail for OEMs.

128Gb 16Gx8 of raw MLC NAND is $3.4.

https://www.trendforce.com/price/flash/flash_contract

https://www.dramexchange.com/#pc-client-oem-price

And Apple charges $200 for 512GB instead of 256GB.

This is past “upcharging” and into robbery. That’s literally getting into DDR $/GB territory.

…I mean, it’s not a deal breaker (I can just work around it with plex and usb storage), but making stuff inconvenient is not very Apple.

[–] Shirasho 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

This is not anything new. They were selling laptops with $200 worth of parts for $999 when Apple was starting to take off. Highway robbery is nothing new for them.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

The TV stand is like the biggest elephant in the room because theirs no way that thing costed more than $30.

[–] DJDarren@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

Back in 2007 when I bought my first MacBook it came with a massive 1Gb RAM, so I asked the lad in the store about upgrading to 2Gb. He pointed me in the direction of a site where I could get it for a damn sight cheaper.

Yeah, Apple have been playing that game for a loooong time.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Kinda want to barf posting here because im the absolute farthest thing from an apple enthusiast...

But my helpful nature exceeds my loathing of apple...

My wife's iPhone had this issue. The VAST majority of that space is old OS data that doesn't get cleaned up properly.

TO RESOLVE THIS and get probably 50gb back, do a full backup (I did on iTunes but apparently there is a cloud way to do that too?)

Then do a factory reset of the phone.

Then restore from backup.

[–] valkyre09@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Worked at the Genius Bar for years. Would see this every now and then. Erase data and restore form backup.

An encrypted iTunes backup will also store account information, making the restore process easier.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So I have an advanced encryption backup in iCloud but whenever I plug my phone in to iTunes it says it’s not recognized and wants to do a full restore. I might bite the bullet on that and hope I don’t lose things.

[–] valkyre09@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[–] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

oh jeez. to be honest the new OS feels like several steps backwards in many places; in terms of UI/UX - wish we could safely downgrade like the old days

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

It feels like that because that’s the way that it is.

[–] Kronusdark@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I have seen my system data fluctuate quite a bit. I wish they would let us know what it consists of.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

You don’t need to know that, peasant. Remember your place.

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

My iOS 26 install takes 14.1 GB on a 14 Pro Max.

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

iOS 26 is 12.87GB on my 12 Pro Max. System Data is 38.15GB for some reason.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago

My install of 26 is only 12GB on mine (the rest is Apple Intelligence and install reserved space).The 26.1 Beta requires an extra 22GB of storage before it will even install. My guess is room to unpack and temp operations.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago

[–] Blackout@fedia.io 4 points 2 weeks ago

God damn, delete some emails and free up 2mb, that's all anyone ever needs.

[–] Infernal_pizza@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

Are betas larger that normal updates, or does this mean you can't update at all now?

[–] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Windows has/had a feature where it kept a ton of system update data long after the update was done, and it just sat in a hidden folder on the off chance you wanted to roll back to an earlier state. But there was a command you could run that would wipe all that out, so you’d be stuck on the latest version but got several GB of usable space back.

Apple needs to cool something like that into iOS. I like that there’s an iTunes method to accomplish the same, but it’s way too much effort.

[–] aln@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

My work PC has windows 11 using 143 gb...

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I just did the 26.1 beta. iPhone 16 Pro. I too was burned.