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[–] seraphine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 78 points 2 days ago (19 children)
[–] Blindsite@lemmy.today 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They exist. People just don't buy them. But there is a Ubuntu phone port you can install on your phone as an alternative to android.

https://forums.ubports.com/topic/10762/status-update-on-the-next-noble-based-ubuntu-touch-release-february-2025

But yeah it can get complicated like any Linux community project and isn't at all mainstream.

People don't buy them because they don't fucking work.

[–] hietsu@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

We had a few good Linux phones back in the day but Nokia / Microsoft killed them trying to compete with iPhone OS and Android: Maemo / Meego were great but did not get a proper chance.

Jolla continued the legacy and Sailfish OS is still something worth checking out if you can find suitable hardware, or idk how complex it is to port it.

Seems to be new Jolla phone coming up at some point too: https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/next-gen-jolla-phone/23882

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[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Graphene users REPRESENT

[–] art@lemmy.world 74 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm starting to think these for-profit companies only care about making money.

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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

Newpipe, now signed by Norman Reedus, verification picture and everything!

[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 62 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Let's hope that the rest of the world, specifically Europe smash this ridiculous proposal apart for what it is. Europe has already sorted out USB-C etc. Its not perfect and they don't get everything right, but certainly big enough to make stuff right.

[–] SpaceCadet@sopuli.xyz 42 points 2 days ago

They're too busy forcing chat control and age gates through our collective throats.

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[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 146 points 3 days ago (4 children)
[–] Hobo@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago (1 children)

~~Don't be evil~~

Be evil when it makes money.

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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 57 points 2 days ago (11 children)

What pisses me off it that they say they do this for security. It changes absolutely anything.

They really think that malware developers will say "oh no! I need to submit a picture of an id card to sign my malware! It's literally impossible to submit a jpg of a stolen id card, I'm ruined and out of a job!"

What does it change? Waste 20 minutes of some malware developer while they register under a stolen id? They already have a system that scans for known malware and automatically remove it.

[–] fading_person@lemmy.zip 53 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's always security when someone wants to take our freedom away. Always security...

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 29 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Not always. It can also be about the children.

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[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Thing is, Play Store is already filled with malware or near-malware from seemingly verified developers. I ran into several scam clone apps just today. It's even snuck in through OEM apps.

Same on iOS, which supposedly verifies devs.

If 'verification' and curation is their idea of security, well... It appears their system is already overloaded, yet they want to expand it?

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[–] Paddy66@lemmy.ml 16 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Contact your representative. And here's F-droid's article about it (including how to find your representative at the end of the article): https://f-droid.org/en/2025/09/29/google-developer-registration-decree.html

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[–] ezterry@lemmy.zip 44 points 2 days ago

I am perfectly ok with android apps being required to be signed by not just a certificate (they always were just it could be self signed and just needed to match to upgrade without removing data) but a list of trusted entities.

As long as:

  • I can install my own key on my phone (I'd I am trusted)
  • major distributors like fdroid and have a key installed without friction (like web CAs)
  • Google let's me mark their key as untrusted (I probably won't but I should be able to refuse things they trust (at install time, not disabling preloaded apps like settings)

Without this it feels too much extending the monopoly despite being forced to allow 3rd party stores.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 36 points 2 days ago

The justification is simple, I don't see the confusion, they want absolute power and for all alternatives to wither and die ? What is there not to understand ?

[–] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 220 points 3 days ago (24 children)

Technically illegal where I live.

In Brazil you can't sell a device with a given feature and then remove said feature in a software update. Even Apple, known for never allowing downgrades, was forced to downgrade and pay a fine to a customer after his iPad 3 updated to iOS 7 and lost an iOS 6 feature.

In other words... every single Android device sold until today in Brazil allows sideloading. Even if a single customer uses a sideloaded app, removing the ability to sideload freely would be illegal, and because the original feature didn't require a developer signature it can't be enforced now.

The issue is, as always, if this went to court somebody would have to manage to explain to a tech illiterate judge what a "developer signature" is, how this relates to "sideloading" and so on.

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