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I respect people's right to use apple products, but please stop asserting "privacy", big corps doesn't give a shit.

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[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Maybe China will bring out a cheap, affordable and degoogled phone lol.

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

After using GrapheneOS on a gigantic fucking Android pixel model, I think I'm gravitating back towards the third option and the iphone mini I haven't dared to sell yet. I think I'll just do the things that needs privacy on my computer in the future.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Um…who actually thinks #3? Apple tells you they sell your stuff and makes app devs tell you. They still sell it, mine it, tailor it for ads, all the same stuff as Google…but just not as pervasive.

[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

The GrapheneOS people. Everyone in their IRC unironically thinks Iphones are highly secure, in part BECAUSE they are proprietary. But they also don't tolerate any criticism of Google, especially if you criticize Google for being proprietary.

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[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 3 days ago (3 children)

you can make your point without ableism, you know

also, has anyone (at least here on lemmy) said "well at least apple cares about privacy!!"? the most ive seen is "apple is less atrocious with privacy than google", which is demonstrably true (tho if you care about maximum privacy, using an iphone is obviously not a good idea)

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[–] uberdroog@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

The dropped Chromecast for a new device. I was sideloading apps on that. I wonder how long before we have a "fix"

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Without defending one or the other, as long as you have proprietary closed software running on the device itself or on the backend of the services it syncs with, all you can have is assumptions and reasonable doubt about how the data is used. We're trading convenience for someone knowing something about us.

[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The last panel could also say “muh iPhone! I was never allowed to sideload anyway!” [I say this as an iPhone user]

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[–] chocrates@piefed.world 11 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I hear Linux phones are close for daily driver stuff. Gonna try one when I am ready for a phone.

Pretty disappointed in my 2 year old pixel, regardless of Googles continued enshitification

[–] Romkslrqusz@lemmy.zip 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Montagge@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Sucks that it only works on Pixels for the most part. I've never paid that much for a phone, and I ain't starting now lol

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[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It’s less that Apple cares about privacy, and more that it’s easier for them to control within a walled garden. If you control all of the levers, the rest naturally falls into place. That doesn’t mean it’s better; it’s just different.

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[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago

ITT

"I give up"

[–] PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I just want smart tube to keep working on my shield

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