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With just over 24 hours before the government is set to shutdown, Donald Trump and congressional leaders from both parties emerged from a high-stakes White House meeting on Monday with no agreement, setting the stage for large swaths of the federal government to close after midnight Wednesday.

The impasse came after closed-door talks between the four top congressional leaders and Trump in the Oval Office, where lawmakers appeared to trade blame but make little progress towards a deal. “There are still large differences between us,” Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer told reporters after the meeting, claiming that Republicans refused to engage on their core demands around health care and restoring previous funding cuts.

“Their bill has not one iota of Democratic input,” he added, taking aim at a House-passed seven-week stopgap funding bill that Senate Democrats rejected last week. “That is never how we’ve done this before.”

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[–] 0ndead@infosec.pub 51 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Trump wants this shutdown. He was never gonna deal.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 17 points 1 hour ago

They have the majority. Should have told them to make a deal with themselves if they actually give a shit.

But controlled opposition, doing controlled opposition things, to maintain the illusion of democracy.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 30 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Americans will never miss their water until the well runs dry.

It's not that Americans are all racist, or all ignorant... it's that enough of them don't spare a thought to think things through until it effects them personally.

[–] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 24 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Welcome to life in America. Where intelligence and common sense aren't so common. People will literally kill you so they can happily vote against their own interests.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Truth.

Living in Canada is like having crazy downstairs neighbours but for some reason one of our roommates keeps inviting them upstairs.

I have not been to the USA in a decade. Literally the only reason I'll ever, ever, return is to visit Casa Bonita in Colorado... ideally on a layover.

[–] AWTM_James@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

We made it in last October. Very well worth the visit, if you can get a reservation

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Glad to hear!

Any stories??

[–] AWTM_James@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 minutes ago* (last edited 6 minutes ago) (1 children)

We sprung for the "premium seating." It was only maybe $10 more per person, but you get seated along the diving cliff so you can see the show better. And because we were one of the last tables of the night, we got lucky and ended up with the best table in the place, right next to/above the cliff divers. I'm not really sure how best to describe it, [so it's a good thing I have video evidence 😅] [link broken, working on finding a better host]

(Also if there's a better way than Google to share these let me know. They're apparently too long for imgur)

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 minutes ago* (last edited 9 minutes ago) (1 children)

fuckin eh. ty!

but that link might doxx u eh. (can see your full name)

oh wait just saw your username.

sadly youtube.

[–] AWTM_James@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 minutes ago

Well shit. I checked to see if it showed my name and it didn't seem to on my side 😮‍💨

[–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Omg, I tried to get in there with almost a month planning ahead. NOPE.

You may need to find a local with whatever lifetime gold membership they sold. Bribe them to take you or something.

I had no idea it was so difficult to get in there. I signed up for the email where they will open a few times here and there, but as soon as the mail is sent, the reservations are gobbled up by the bots.

I wish you all the luck.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

It's gonna be 3 years at least. I doubt I'd be getting the full experience visiting during the tariffs anyways.

thx for the heads up!

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

This is true of people in general. While comfortable enough, or able to rationalize the discomfort away, people tend to not want to change. It takes a large shove to get people to act. Having a huge and diverse country with lots of built-in disconnects doesn't help.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Having a huge and diverse country with lots of built-in disconnects doesn't help.

Are you saying that diversity in a disconnected society can create more opportunities for conflict?

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 3 points 53 minutes ago (1 children)

It can, especially when there are systems in place to play upon those differences and fan flames, even create fires that wouldn't naturally erupt. Diversity is powerful, but can be used for good or bad purposes.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 points 45 minutes ago

Totally. But yea the context of a disconnected society is important.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 23 minutes ago* (last edited 23 minutes ago)

the government is set to shutdown

  1. Set to shut down (verb)
  2. Set for shutdown (noun)

You need to pick a lane. Please tell me time.com editors have at least the brains god gave a gnat.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Why are Democrats trying to make deals with fascists is the real headline.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 5 points 42 minutes ago (1 children)

TBF it is their job attend legislative sessions. I agree with the spirit of your comment.

To answer your question... clearly the weren't trying that hard.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 0 points 30 minutes ago (2 children)

I disagree. I would argue that their job is to represent their constituents. Sometimes that might involve attending legislative sessions. Other times that might involve intentionally not engaging with the opposition party, if that is in the best interests of the constituents.

[–] Veedems@piefed.social 1 points 7 minutes ago (1 children)

In this case, not engaging would mean intentionally choosing to shut down a government that has services that directly impact those constituents. Meeting with them is the bare minimum of their job.

I can’t imagine Trump had any good faith negotiations so it’s a fool’s effort, but it’s their job to try, nonetheless.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago

intentionally choosing to shut down a government that has services that directly impact those constituents.

They should be shutting down the government. Not doing so is a derelection of their duty to their constituents and the constitution. Shutting down the government prevents DJT from doing more damage. Its a way the can actually stop/ stem the bleeding while being in the minority, and it would also show them having some spine.

Going into any kind of negotiations with Trump is idiotic. Its not their job to keep giving Trump everything he needs to destroy the country.

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 0 points 20 minutes ago* (last edited 20 minutes ago) (1 children)

Well now you just sound impossible to please and completely ignorant of your own civic system.

Sorry.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 0 points 10 minutes ago

I'm neither. I want the opposition party to be an opposition party when its important to do so, like it is now.

That means not trying to find common ground with fascists.

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 8 points 1 hour ago

What do they need a coup for? They control the whole damn thing.

[–] blave@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Who could have ever predicted this?

[–] Canconda@lemmy.ca 1 points 38 minutes ago

The worst part is Trumps Cronies 100% expected this to be more difficult.

[–] Zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

Quelle surprise