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Nearly a third of Americans – 30% – say people may have to resort to violence in order to get the country back on track, according to the latest PBS News/NPR/Marist poll.

It’s a sharp rise from 18 months ago, when 19% of Americans said the same.

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[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 6 points 29 minutes ago

Depending on how the question was worded Im willing to bet a large portion of those means violence against the lunatic leftists.

[–] piranhaphish@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Is this the same third that didn't vote in the last election?

[–] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 35 points 2 hours ago

Well if an ICE officer stops my husband based on his appearance we’ve both agreed that we should resist that arrest.

That would end in violence and probably our deaths. What else can we do? Let them take us god knows where?

[–] MyDogLovesMe@lemmy.world 11 points 2 hours ago

The Rest of The World: “duh!”

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think getting it on track requires or will even be helped by violence

I firmly believe, however, that many powerful people will violently resist the re-tracking

[–] laranis@lemmy.zip 0 points 24 minutes ago

This is an amazing nuance I think may be lost on many.

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 12 points 2 hours ago

Unfortunately that appears to be thr only way to get rid of them. They continually ignore the established laws and protests and " sternly worded emails/letters/phonecalls.

[–] Corelli_III@midwest.social 11 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

PBS running these insipid polls lately is so fucking offensive.

Americans are already doing violence on Americans to execute their fascist vision of this country, en masse, within and without institutions. Violent change is here. The violence question is over. Public opinion is for TV.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 4 hours ago

Well it's true. You can't be diplomatic with fascists. You can't "get on the same level" with billionaires.

They have no reason to listen or care, unless we give them a reason to listen or care.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 14 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Soap box, ballot box, ammo box. They're trying to take away the 1st 2, so...

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

Well we tried that too and the pussy ass judge gave 0 days in jail so.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Pick up a history book.

Fascists don't allow fair elections.

Fascists don't stop when asked politely.

Unfortunately, that 30% is correct.

Arm yourselves and everyone you know. Form networks. Communicate via encrypted messaging apps.

[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 10 points 4 hours ago

The government said pacifism is naive and dangerous

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

The justice system, from the government perspective, is primarily a guard against vigilantism. Once enough people lose faith in the justice system's ability to enforce the law with at least some degree of honesty and fairness, then the only option people see is to take justice into their own hands.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 17 points 5 hours ago

John Brown was right.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 6 hours ago

"Those who make peaceful reform impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 11 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

That’s just people who admit it out loud. I know a few people who hint at this too but are afraid to say it out loud, especially if they have an Alexa-type device.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

My FBI agent when I speak directly into the Google Home device that I am going to fight back against fascism:

[–] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 2 points 34 minutes ago

Lol. His photo will never not be hilarious.

[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

That's why I am okay with the idea that T Rob is liberal.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 3 hours ago

Its way worse now than when the weathermen were a thing.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 14 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

As always, Republicans lead the pack, with more Republicans supporting political violence than Democrats. The scary part is how much the Democrat statistics have gone up, and the fact they're getting close to the levels of support seen in Republicans

America is fucked up. I don't have a solution, just pointing out the sad state of affairs

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

The scary part is how much the Democrat statistics have gone up, and the fact they're getting close to the levels of support seen in Republicans

Scary would be the Democrats continuing to stick their head in the sand

[–] bagsy@lemmy.world 13 points 4 hours ago

Things always go to shit when the wealth divide gets too big. People and companies shouldnt be big enough to own the government. The last time this happened was the guilded age in the 20s which led to the crash. who knows where this one will lead.

[–] Beebabe@lemmy.world 12 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I have become worried I’ll need to defend myself against violent republicans because they are always talking about and actively hurting others.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 4 points 3 hours ago

Your concern is valid. "Worry" is a useless activity. Prepare.

They might not explicitly call themselves republicans. They might be implicitly or explicitly backed by The State. But there is a growing number of people with weapons and unmasked hate for othered humans.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 49 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (20 children)

This reflects a feeling of being backed into a corner. What else are we going to do when our political views and goals and ffs human beings are being criminalized? Every decent thing getting rolled back and every horrible thing dialed up to 11. Fuck republicans. One way or another they will regret this. Whether people vote them out or get violent with them remains to be seen but this will not last, obviously.

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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 35 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Violence is how we beat the Nazis the first time. If there's a cleaner option that's actually feasible, then yes please... but failing that, cutting the head off the snake is a pretty tried and true method. And if it grows back, cut that one off too - they'll get the message eventually.

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 12 points 6 hours ago

Exactly. Ultimately these people don't actually believe in anything other than power. Their arguments are in bad faith. Any compromise is just a temporary weigh station as they prepare to push even harder.

How did compromising with the right work for abortion? Parental consent laws became onerous clinical regulations became bans on performing procedures became making getting an abortion legally murder. How did compromising on trans rights go? A few "reasonable concerns" about girl's sports became blanket bans on sports became bans on life-saving care for minors became restrictions on basic ID documents became attempts to criminalize the very existence of trans people. This isn't slippery slope conjecture; it's directly observed history.

The simple awful truth is that we have fundamentally incompatible visions of the world. They see The Handmaid's Tail as an ideal to aim for. They think the literal God of the universe wants them to create this nightmare. And with God at their backs, they can justify any evil to create their warped utopia. Any action can be justified. Any lie can be excused. Any suffering by any number of people now can be balanced against the perfect lives they imagine we'll all live once they force us all into their dream world. The worst thing about them, is that they actually think they're the good guys.

This is the fundamental problem. Their vision of an Earthly paradise is our vision of Hell on Earth. We have fundamentally different visions for the future. They cannot convince the majority of the population to willingly create their vision. So they have to resort to violence, disenfranchisement, propaganda, and fraud. (All justified for the greater good.) And ultimately we're going to have to use every tactic they use and more if we want to keep these monsters from turning our nation into Gilead.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I've not heard a single conservative say anything about "back" on anything. Not on track, not to old school values, not a fuckin thing.

I have heard them say it's time for a new America though. A lot lately in fact. Phrasing, ya know?

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