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why not embrace fashtech! they’ve got:

  • terrible Fisher-Price CSS
  • the most toxic part of the Wayland ecosystem, and that’s saying something
  • the worst part of the X11 ecosystem, and that’s saying something
  • suckless tools and they all fucking suck
  • corporate control over the packages you wrote, for your own protection
  • distributed functional programming that doesn’t function or distribute
  • a non-working web browser moving to a proprietary language that only supports macs, which appears to exist purely to divert funding away from Servo (for anyone posting to tell me Swift technically isn't proprietary, here's how that's going)
  • a working chromium fork whose only business purpose is to push slop extruders and a scam cryptocurrency
  • a web browser which runs single-process so that if a single website freezes or crashes then the entire session freezes or crashes (credit: 2something)
  • “diverse sponsorship” but it’s all MilTech companies; you’re surrounded by a rich market! of drone and other murder manufacturers (credit: @froztbyte@awful.systems)
  • slop extruders
  • cryptocurrencies

if you're puzzled by the above vaguepost, I've written a little answer key:

answer key and further discussion, in order of urgencythe package repositories currently being taken over are RubyGems and NixOS' nixpkgs. it's quite well known that DHH, a Shopify board member, is behind the corporate takeover of RubyGems. he's also coordinating openly on Twitter with the defense contractor Anduril and other actors to ensure that nixpkgs meets an even worse fate. this is the culmination of a long project to make Nix fascist.

DHH and the fascists taking over Nix being in league might seem too convenient to be true, so here's some links. these are just analysis, but if you click through to Twitter you're going to get hit in the face with bare bigotry so fair warning:

https://fedi.slightly.tech/@joepie91/statuses/01K6AHA0BNBBX616JGDJHYET36

https://fedi.slightly.tech/@joepie91/statuses/01K6E3G2Z19M82BWRB3SPADHP9

https://mstdn.games/@KFears/115286316219357517

the tactics the fascists used to take over nixpkgs and RubyGems are old, and they worked. now that they know their tactics work, they'll be coming for other projects.

also publicly coordinating with DHH on Twitter are the guy who started Tailwind (terrible Fisher-Price CSS) Adam Wathan and the leader of the Ladybird web browser Andreas Kling; both are actively brainstorming with DHH ways to make their projects more hostile to non-fascists. while the Tailwind guy turning fash might be surprising, Andreas has a bunch of fash shit on his Twitter and a history.

now's maybe the time to stop advocating for that unserious non-working web browser

the fash papertrail for Ladybird really shouldn't have to go much farther than them receiving money from fascists in a group that included other fascists but here's more anyway:

https://possum.city/notes/a504c0e7vwdj000h

I legitimately do not know how this shitty browser got so popular on fedi, but Andreas controls it so tightly he pretty much single-handedly switched all future development to Swift over his own community's objections

anyway, hyprland is the most toxic part of Wayland. no I won't dig up links, type "hyprland toxic" into a search engine of your choice. other parts of Wayland fucking suck too.

but speaking of fucking sucking, XLibre is a fash X server that also barely works, because the point of fash tech isn't that it works, the point is that it's metaphorically and sometimes literally a weapon. see also the defense contractor currently taking over Nix, but see also the OG fash language, Urbit, the worst functional programming language I've ever known

Urbit is fractally wrong; every part of it that claims to be original isn't, every time it claims to be distributed it's a lie, and when it claims to work it's almost definitely broken, though you wouldn't know cause it was written by an asshole trying to convert Hacker News types to neoreaction and it worked

ask me about Urbit, I have so many notes

the Chromium fork is Brave, a browser by an asshole that claims to be privacy-focused but which is there to push LLMs and cryptocurrencies

the single-process browser is PaleMoon, whose developers seem like real pieces of work

please "enjoy" the suckless developers doing a torchlight hike in coordination with the nazi Unite the Right rally. one of their core devs says this was just a coincidence! two of the links are that same guy ranting about fucking cultural marxism!

https://tilde.team/%7Eben/suckmore/

there's more but if you don't see it from this, you don't give a fuck about fascism, you're here to do evangelism

deep breath

LLMs are slop extruders made by fascists that further fascist goals [citation not needed]

if you scratch a guy who's really into cryptocurrencies, you find a guy who's really into turning the world into a Bitcoin Citadel, a neoreactionary form where anyone who isn't cryptowealthy is a slave: https://decrypt.co/84125/the-bizarre-rise-of-the-bitcoin-citadel

got a favorite I didn’t list? comment with your receipts!

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[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 hours ago

And the "open" decentralised chat app that only works on iphones.

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 5 points 13 hours ago

Related post, about fashtech being a supply chain issue: https://buttondown.com/dorian/archive/supply-chain-risks-in-late-2025/

[–] jaschop@awful.systems 13 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

Happy to contribute with a personal experience. If you're interested in self-hosting, stay well clear of https://ipv6.rs/

They've promoted and been active on https://soj.ooo/ , a project whose motto might as well be "self-host so ((they)) can't censor you!" The crowd is your typical "too antisemitic to be MAGA" fellas.

So if you want a static IP, go to your local ISP or buy tunnelling from Cloudflare.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 5 points 15 hours ago

Lol at that soj site just being the same anti vax misinformation pushed by one account every 3 minutes.

Screenshot in spoiler (Description of the screenshot: looks like mastodon instance, 3 similar looking posts by the same user pushing some bitchute video about a link between cancer and mRNA vaccines to any community they can find).

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 5 points 17 hours ago

holy shit that site

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 3 points 16 hours ago

ffs Andrew Lee's Joseon has a space on soj.ooo

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 10 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

there's a writeup to do of Bluesky and AT-protocol as fashtech, start from this one https://azhdarchid.com/delusions-of-a-protocol/

there's more detail to add for the explicit case for atproto as fashtech (including the bit where they're increasingly mask-off rationalists, coiners, neoreactionaries and transphobes), but yelling about decentralisation while keeping a pile of obscured but load-bearing points of central control is a good tell

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

the defense contractor Anduril

Interesting to note that apparently Anduril is very bad at their job. Their shit doesn't even work properly. Source: https://bsky.app/profile/hypervisible.blacksky.app/post/3m2bzp4r4es2n

Brave

You are downplaying the shittyness of that one here as well. (Not blaming you or anything, I get the need for not dumping everything in one post. Just adding to the pile). And source, www.reddit.com/r/browsers/comments/1j1pq7b/list_of_brave_browser_controversies/ esp note the wikipedia clone, it was the one by Vox Day

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Everything is touched by "It can't be that stupid" syndrome these days, isn't it?

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Interesting to note that apparently Anduril is very bad at their job. Their shit doesnt even work properly.

doesn't matter if you can grift USGOV for money

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 18 hours ago

Indeed, and I think defense spending is not stopped when the gov shuts down right?

[–] self@awful.systems 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I accidentally omitted the receipt for suckless so check that out in the answer key if you didn’t see it in there before

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 11 points 19 hours ago

suckless is what opened the door to an entire subculture of fascist racist FOSS enjoyers to me, a door I sincerely wished had stayed closed

[–] rook@awful.systems 11 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I was always faintly baffled by ladybird… why, in this day and age, would you start a complex new project using a complex and deeply un-memory-safe language when you could just… not? I’m guessing kling is one of those rockstar devs who is certain that they never make mistakes.

Swift is a surprisingly OK language. It’s just a shame it is hitched to apple who seem to have real problems with making dev tooling that isn’t awful. Maybe in a few years the cross-platform experience won’t suck.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 6 points 18 hours ago

as part of Syllable it was absolutely an interesting nerd project "yeah let's write a browser!!"

then fashtech funding knocked on the door, Kling put on his red baseball cap and took ladybird out on the road