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[–] melfie@lemy.lol 2 points 6 hours ago

AI isn’t taking the jobs, dipshit rich assholes are cutting the jobs. Taking a job implies doing the job, and from that perspective, the remaining people who weren’t laid off are taking the jobs, not AI.

[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago

This shit's so embarrassing

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 12 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

It hasn't taken any jobs, but this will keep being repeated so it can be used as a bludgeon against pay rises and keeping up with inflation.

'you're lucky to have a job'

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago

It hasn’t taken any jobs

Microsoft to cut up to 9,000 more jobs as it invests in AI

Hundreds of Google AI Workers Were Fired Amid Fight Over Working Conditions

Tesla’s layoffs hit Autopilot team as AI develops

A lot of these bozos are drinking their own Kool-aid. They're laying off internal teams in droves and pivoting to "Vibes Coding" as a presumably more efficient method of internal devleopment.

[–] ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 8 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

I disagree, I have literally heard of people being laid off because managers think that AI can and will replace actual workers, I have literally seen it too. It's already happening.

[–] quetzaldilla@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Corporations are firing and laying off labor, but that labor is not being done by AI-- it's simply falling on those who are still employed or not getting done at all.

I resigned from an international public accounting firm due to having AI forced on very sensitive and delicate projects in order to lower costs. As a professional, every alarm bell went off and I left because I could be held liable for their terrible managerial decisions.

They told me they were sad to see me go, but AI is the future and hope I changed my mind-- this was all back in April.

Not only did AI fail to do a fraction of the work we were told it was going to do, it caused over $2MM in client damages that the firm then used to justify the firing of the remaining members of the projects' team for failing to properly supervise the AI, even though every manager struggles to open a PDF.

AI is not the future because it is literally only capable of looking backwards.

AI is a performative regurgitation of information that real people put the time and energy into gathering, distilling, refining, and presenting to others to evaluate and contribute to.

Even worse, AI demonstrably makes its users dependent and intellectually lazy. If you think about it, the more prevalent AI usage becomes, the less and less capable people will be left to maintain it. And to all the fools crying out that AI will take care of itself or robots will, I say:

All LLMs are hallucinating and going psychotic, and that is not something that can be fixed due to the very nature of how LLMs work.

AI is not intelligent. And while it could be, that would take far too much energy and resources to make cost-effective machines with as many neural connections present in the brain of an average MAGA voter-- and that is already a super a low bar for most of us to clear.

[–] drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago

Yeah, it just hasn't taken any of those jobs, apparently.

[–] normalexit@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If we can make it through to midterm elections I will worry then.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 22 hours ago

even with the midterms, trump did so much damage, its only going to end up being blame on dems anyways. its better to intervene later, mainly having republican recieve the blame for once.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

My prediction is that AI, as in LLMs, will be responsible for 0 net jobs lost but simultaneously responsible for many companies going under.

People will lose their jobs to AI in the same way that lumberjacks lose their job to forest fires.

thats UE4 Manny lol

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

robot tax

Needs to stop with stupid gimmicks from Bernie. Higher personal, corporate, and investment taxes to fund UBI. Welcome robots/automation to free us from any useless work instead of looking at cannibal solutions to "pick me" for the one job there is.

Robot taxes are wrongheaded, because automation is hard to define. Taxing pipes and wires will make full employment getting all your energy and water with buckets from the river and chopping down all the trees. Even if we strained to define narrow robots/automation categories, it would encourage more foreign production, and no local robot production economy. Why would those selling Yachts to the robot owners not be taxed?

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

we dont even have universal healthcare or functional public transit, UBI is a pipedream...

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 22 hours ago

or fast rail way, even in places that are funded better. public transports is lacking in many areas , for example it doesnt go areas outside of cities where most tech jobs/biotech campuses are without a car.

[–] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world -1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

In fact, UBI is complete nonsense because you won't be able to save for anything since your account will be reset every time, and you will again receive about 2k in currency, which will all go to pay for basic needs and in the end you will become like a pet.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

UBI is an easy winning election platform. The most promising aspect of UBI is that it is power redistribution. Wealth doesn't get redistributed, and rich get richer even with higher taxes.

A UBI election platform has to be an anti-zionazi corruption platform. Everyone who pledges loyalty to Israel with a policy influence position is automatically a traitor, and will wait for their treason trial in military prison, citizenship removed, and their zionazi donors wealth must be zeroed out (confiscated by state). Defense and oil industries must be nationalized for their warmongering and zionazi influence. Zionazi media must be nationalized. AIPAC lobbyists and donors are traitors, not just foreign agents. ADL is a hate group.

we dont even have universal healthcare or functional public transit

Because of extreme political corruption. Money in politics and media tells you to never change that. US pays 5% of GDP more than Canada on healthcare, and a significant quality of life improvement for Americans comes from spending less overall, including not being subject to stress and crime that causes healthcare. Health lobbies, and all other oligarchies, allying with Zionazi donor wishes is an easier path for corruption than excluding zionazi influence to their own party. Andrew Yang's 2016 book tour presidential run (focused on UBI/freedom dividends) started with including Universal healthcare, but like DNC, accepted fundraising to lose all principles. His attempt to form a centrist party/coalition is effectively a zionazi only political coalition.

We cannot have nice things because Israel supremacy and war has to be purpose of US government. Your misery makes you ignore the pure evil of US, because bandaids on your misery is all that gets politically debated. You can't think of American or human sustainability if collapse is imminent. UBI is the complete extermination of the establishment corruption. UBI makes every program have a cash dividend alternative that makes it virtually impossible for corrupt filth to support wasteful programs.

On AI topic, "national security to beat China" = make Skynet to support Israel media/information control to diminish and oppress us all for oligarchy. The alternative to freedom dividends/UBI is genocide of the slave class that has resistance negatives, and no longer any useful slavery positives, to Israel/oligarchy.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

and again...how do you imagine your getting to that point in a country that can't even agree people deserve access to healthcare at all, let alone affordable/quality healthcare...

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I very specifically provided complete necessary political messaging. UBI does not provide supremacist power to election winner. It provides freedom and prosperity to people. Since money = speech has already been enshrined, money is terrorist treasonous oppression when used for Zionist first warmongering rule over the country. You must disqualify from politics those who get media/donor support, and pledge loyalty, for their terrorist treasonous oppression of Americans.

can’t even agree people deserve access to healthcare at all,

The biggest issue that influences Trump supporters that I know is total obsession with trans normalization/DEI stories. An olympic female boxer is hated because she is not feminine looking enough. 2nd is any crime or pet eating accusation of immigrants. Covid policies, 3rd. Biden intentionally forcing egg prices higher is just BS they go along with because the same sources that feed their hate on those top 3 issues, pile on for GOP support.

That GOP politicians gaslight support for those issues in order to give oligarchs tax cuts funded by cuts on healthcare is not "people disagree on healthcare is good", it's just politicians ignoring what people want. The BS that reimbursing states for medicaid expenses they pay hospitals is giving them money that can be spent on anything, including immigrant protections, is just complete BS, that needs disinformation from sources that feed their 3 priority hate points, which MAGA trusts, to disinform them on oligarchy protections.

The Zionazi/oligarch rulership gaslighting on every other issue can be exterminated. Only through UBI. An election platform that invalidates current establishment power funding.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

cool, so...how do you get this messaging about UBI through the propaganda machine when something as basic as universal healthcare cant get through?

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I will just make it shorter.

Invalidate zionism. Dehumanize anyone who supports it.

Without zionist financing/control of elections/media, simple needs can get addressed. They cannot if zionism is not outed as a hate group.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

and how do we go about doing this, the best I got is...well...looking at who funds AIPAC and connecting the dots

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

Easy path, yes. Oil/wepaons lobby. Mercer, Kochs, Ackman, Adelson....

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Stop calling LLM AI. It creates false expectations.

[–] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 13 hours ago

It's not a lie if you can obtain a trademark... our LLM is AI™. Just like how Teslas are Fully Self Driving™.

[–] innermachine@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The fact that "AI" training off other LLM slop produces worse and worse results is proof there is no "intelligence" going on just clever parroting.

[–] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 hours ago

LLMs are Mechanical Turks

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 1 points 12 hours ago

LLMs are the embodiment of "close enough". They're suitable if you want something resembling a certain mode of speech, formal tone or whatever without having to write it yourself.

When using it to train other LLMs, you're basically training them to get "close enough" to "close enough", with each generation getting a little further from "actually good" until, at some point, it's just not longer close enough.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 day ago

Just look at who's in charge of the Senate, and ask yourself if they are to be trusted to do anything but lie, steal and carry out witch hunts.

As for LLMs, unless driving contact-centre customer satisfaction scores even further through the floor counts as an achievement, so far, all there's been has been a vast volume of hype and wasted energy, and very little to show for it, except for some highly constrained point solutions which aren't significant enough to make economic impact. Even then, the ROI is questionable.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

So they want to keep them terrified of losing their shitty, barely functioning status quo.

The reality is that these are the numbers the Republicans want , because it's the numbers their billionaire owners want. ChatGPT is just accidentally letting us know how they've poisoned the models.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 72 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (12 children)

I think the fad will die down a bit, when companies figure out that AI will be more likely than humans to make very expensive mistakes that the company has to compensate, and saying it was the AI is not a valid cop out.
I foresee companies will go bankrupt on that account.

It doesn't help to save $100k on cutting away an employee, if the AI causes damages for 10 or 100 times that amount.

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[–] latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone 98 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

This is how AI will take over... not through wars or competence, but by being better at bureaucratic forgeries...

Edit: well, I guess the apple never falls far from the tree, as it were! Wa-hey! We wanted to create the ultimate worker, but we've managed to create the ultimate politician instead=))

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[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Yes but got forbid those jobs be stolen by another country. Can’t have that.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 40 points 2 days ago (2 children)

LOLLLLLLLL that’s like a third of the US population. Probably half of the number currently employed. There’s no way in hell this useless garbage will take 1/3 to 1/2 of all jobs. Companies that do this will go out of business fast.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can tell how competent someone is at something by how good they think AI is at that thing.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can tell how competent someone is at something by how good they think AI is at that thing.

This is so true.

I recently had a colleague - ignorant of this perspective - give a training presentation on using AI to update a kind of bullshit job useless document.

Dozens of peers attended their presentation. They went on demonstrating relatively mindless prompt inputting for 40 minutes.

I keep remembering just how many people they shared their AI enthusiasm with.

I think they may honestly believe that AI has democratized the workplace, and that they will vibe code their way to successful startup CEO-ship in a year.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I also find it interesting how whenever I've expressed the above sentiment either here or on the Other Place, the up/downvote ratios seem to vary massively depending on the tech-bro quotient of the group. I'm mildly surprised to see it go entirely positive in a community called "technology".

[–] Darkenfolk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago

Well yeah, a tech-bro ain't actually that technologically inclined to begin with.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 3 points 1 day ago

To that I say, welcome to Lemmy!

And these 1/3 are perfect horde for fascist brainwashing and consolidate the power of techno-fascists. The fascists will tell the jobless that immigrants took their jobs and not robots.

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