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[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

All because he doesn't want to swear in that new congresswoman.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 14 points 2 days ago

Because she'll be the final vote to release the Epstein Files.

ALL of this is to keep the evidence of an enormous international child sex trafficking operation that included many of the highest members of our government and the most wealthy men in the world, from becoming public.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 86 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Add this to the list of things I’m thinking now that, if you had told me a year ago, I’d have assumed you were utterly insane:

  • I genuinely hope large sections of the US military mutiny against the federal government over lack of pay
[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

This happened during the Obama administration, I was active duty in those days. I think USAA and AER had some programs if you needed a check during the shutdown, not sure if that’s happening these days.

[–] crank0271@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I didn't experience it so personally but I'm only seeing one shutdown during Obama's terms. That's not to say that certain media didn't screech about it endlessly, of course.

[–] youngGoku@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

Yes I was active duty during Obama's administration and there was only one government shutdown that I can recall.

I think military missed 1 paycheck IIRC and my Navy Federal Credit Union fronted us the money until the back pay kicked in.

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 days ago

Ah, yeah you’re right. My bad. I believe there were threats of shutdowns but they never happened. Still got some emails from USAA about what to do in a potential shutdown AFAIK.

They probably want this so they can remove anyone who protested and then give bonuses to the ones who were loyal/subservient, and fill in the empty spots with more people who will fall in line and follow orders no matter how illegal they may be.

[–] modernangel@sh.itjust.works 61 points 3 days ago (3 children)

The image labels it the "democrat shutdown" but the correct term is really "Epstein files shutdown"

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 16 points 3 days ago

Somehow they had enough money to pay some to design that.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

Fucking clown show

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

Yup. He won't allow this vote because then he would have no excuse for not swearing in the new Congresswoman.

[–] Son_of_Macha@lemmy.cafe 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

America is a crazy place. If i am not being paid, I am not going to work

[–] SoloCritical@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (4 children)

But what if your employer forces you to under penalty of jail time?

[–] superniceperson@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Oh no, anyway just a reminder that all unionization and striking was illegal until unions killed enough US military troops to force congress to recognize the bare minimum of workers rights and enshrined them in law. The reason it is illegal for your boss to lock you in a factory for an indefinite period of time at gun point is because your ancestors killed a lot of us army soldiers that were ordered to force us citizens to work or shoot them.

[–] IronBird@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

when/what was this, knew the police did this but never heard of soldiers being ordered to

Battle of Blair mountain and the west Virginia coal wars in general are the largest and most egregious examples.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 10 points 3 days ago

Then it’s time to start identifying targets.

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Free bed, free food?

Sign me the fuck up

[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I’d take jail time over e-mail time.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago

Republicans are traitors to their country.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

ICE isn't getting paid?

Shut it down indefinitely! We can fund all the good stuff with state-level taxes. The world can live without our Gestapo at home and imperialism abroad. At this point they're more harm than good.

We can revisit Federal government in three years. They screeched about less government for so long, let's give it to them while they're in power.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Those ICE jackals aren't doing it for the money, they do it for the love of the game.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe but they've got rent to pay too.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Red state scabs like that probably get welfare. Besides, we've seen over and over that these ignoramuses would cut off their own dicks if it offended Libz.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 35 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So are ICE and the National Guard getting paid? I’m sure some of the people in ICE enjoy being assholes for free, but after a while it won’t pay their bills.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 21 points 3 days ago (3 children)

ICE is. But even before the shut down, they were jerking the NG around by deploying them for just under the amount of time that it takes to activate all their extra deployment pay.

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Every source I can find indicates that is false. ICE is not paid during the shutdown. They will be paid when it ends

Additional sources: 1 and 2

Definitive source, although painful to try to read

[–] BigPotato@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

So, they're just shooting people in the face for fun. Got it.

At least Soldiers have the gumption to sham during my a shutdown!

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why aren’t more people complaining “ICE is getting paid but our troops aren’t” or “ICE is getting paid to kidnap Americans, but your flights are delayed because air traffic controllers aren’t”?

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

ICE isn't being paid. The commenter was incorrect. Any anger would be misplaced

[–] Artisian@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This is false afaict. ICE enforcement is considered essential, so they (like military members) will get backpay, but are not paid during the shutdown. See: https://apnews.com/article/trump-federal-shutdown-paid-congress-jeffries-schumer-thune-9ecc7db2e689c45d288268aabf061498