TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

That's what I don't get. It's like the people saying Sesame Street has gotten too woke. Were you even paying attention the first time? That's what I liked about many episodes of The Orville: it felt like classic Star Trek because it was pushing the envelope of social and philosophical issues through a sci-fi lens.

He asked me if he would like SNW and I wasn't sure what to tell him. The cast may be more diverse, but honestly the plots have largely been focused on action.

TOS below ENT is unfathomable. I’ll have a go:

DS9, TOS, TNG, DISCO, SNW, VOY, LD, PIC, PRO, TAS, ENT

SNW would have beat out DISCO if it weren’t for season 3. Of course, I’m super mercurial and will stand by none of this in a week.

Not actually that far away from my list. I understand putting TNG that high even if I disagree with it. TOS being that low is pure blasphemy, though

I watch TOS relatively frequently, watched a few episodes the other day. It’s a really fantastic show, more great episodes in the first season than some other shows have their entire run. The Spock/Kirk/McCoy dynamic is as special as it has ever been. Pacing is slower, which I like, and even a lot of the mediocre eps do a really nice job setting up a mystery that they actually solve.

There’s also a lot of truly awful eps, and highly outdated bits, but a great show.

Also, much like Janeway I don’t appreciate being called sir, ma’am will do in a pinch. (I know Star Trek was trying to be progressive by using sir universally, but I find it mildly sexist)

And I agree, it hurt to put Voyager as low as it was, the doctor’s rendition and alteration of la Donna e mobile was as brilliant as you state, but still had to put TNG higher, so many great episodes.