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In Argentina, President Javier Milei has screwed the economy up so badly he needs a $20 billion bailout. That’s because his “free market” economics don’t actually work.

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 82 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Libertarians do care about freedom .... their own personal freedom ... and it doesn't matter to them if it costs the freedoms of others

It's a selfish mentality where they believe that they should have all the ultimate freedom to do whatever they please, regardless if it hurts, degrades or destroys anyone's or everyone's freedoms.

[–] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Most of the self professed 'libertarians' that I have met are basically people who think they will be one of the warlords when the fall comes. They are of course sadly mistaken.

[–] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The top three priorities of a true libertarian are I, Me, Mine.

All of the self-styled "libertarians" I know are simply looking for an excuse to not pay taxes.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 5 points 5 days ago

Don’t forget they also want it to be legal for men aged 40+ to fuck teenagers!

[–] Alienmonkey@piefed.social 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

In the before times (Trump, COVID, Harambe) Libertarians believed in the Non Aggression Principal or NAP as it was commonly referred to.

After the tea party and preperheads co-opted the libertarian imagery, it seems to have long since been forgotten.

But initially, that ideology was one of not using coercion to rule. Not restricting behavior or actions as long as NAP is not violated. Yes excess taxes are bad but also stay out of my bedroom and my non-binary neighbors garden. You want a coal plant cool, BUT if it is spewing crap into the air that we breath, it violates NAP and not allowed to operate.

Personally, I believe some of the ideals have merit but they require people to not be shit and that seems way too hard an ask. There are other ways to govern and maintain personal freedom not at the expense of others.

As a fun read Dr. Jo Jorgensen (she/her) was an interesting libertarian candidate years ago and huge contrast to what we see in the pork chop sideburns guy from Argentina. A long way from what could have been. They forgot her faster than the NAP.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 2 points 4 days ago

You want a coal plant cool, BUT if it is spewing crap into the air that we breath, it violates NAP and not allowed to operate.

Most of the libertarians I've met don't seem to believe that sort of thing. They might accept that punching someone is bad, but something complex like pollution they don't accept.

"I should be free to dump my garbage on my property! It's mine!"

"Yeah, but then you pollute the river and everyone down stream suffers"

"...it's my property!"

[–] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 29 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Wait a moment, wasn’t Argentina’s economy in the toilet already? If it happens like Mexico in the 80s, this 20 billion loan won’t prop the economy, but the pockets of government officials and robber barons.

[–] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 10 points 5 days ago

Regardless of the state of Argentina’s economy and government, this is a $20 billion gift from one fascist to another. Trump is probably hoping for Millei to back any move against Venezuela the US might make.

[–] Vupware@lemmy.zip 14 points 5 days ago (1 children)

He’s not even a libertarian tho. An oaf sure, but he’s been meddling with the economy in extreme ways, something antithetical to libertarianism.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 6 points 4 days ago

That is all libertarians who gain some semblance of power. Just like "small government conservatives", all libertarians are lying hypocrites.

[–] MonsterMonster@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago
[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 days ago

They should kirk his ass

[–] Atelopus-zeteki@fedia.io 7 points 5 days ago

$20B here, $20B there, before you know it you're talking Real Money. /s

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

The "Free" in "Free Market" apparently stands for "Free falling"

[–] verdi@feddit.org 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

For all the "tHiS dOeSn'T mEaN MiLeI iS fAiLiNg" commenters out there:

Milei is a pimp selling his people's arse to the highest bidder. The highest bidder happens to have friends in high places that guarantee that some Argentinian arse can be cashed at the expense of US american taxpayer money...

Keep coping.

The US is the most communist country in the world. It's literally a bunch of dudes spending someone elses money while redirecting it to their pocket. It would make Stalin jealous!