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[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I get it. Younger demographic, new audience. Star Trek is no longer made for me. I understand that, and I get it.

But...

Regardless of who it's made for, regardless of who the target audience is, there came a point in Star Trek history (ahem...2009) when they stopped making somthing designed to be "Star Trek" and starting making "X...with a Star Trek Theme applied on top".

  • "Star Wars...with a Star Trek Theme applied on top"
  • "James Bond...with a Star Trek Theme applied on top"
  • "Futurama...with a Star Trek Theme applied on top"
  • "Battlestar Galactica...with a Star Trek Theme applied on top".
  • and now introducting, "My So-Called Life...with a Star Trek Theme applied on top".

That's why SNW was (at least until the latest season), a breath of fresh air; because it dared to be a "Star Trek...with a Star Trek Theme applied on top."

Hell...Discovery tried to be "EVERYTHING ABOVE...with a Star Trek Theme applied on top" depending on the season.

I get it. Chase the audience. But it's maddening.

[–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

This comes across as gatekeeping…

— from the perspective of someone who’s been watching Trek since the 1960s and has seen the same old ‘ahem, not Trek, it’s stealing from …’ chestnuts since TAS was announced, I am alway surprised how little older fans recognize that Trek has ALWAYS adapted other media (movies, television, radio plays, Shakespeare!) into its episodes.

Sigh.

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Looks good, but too soon to tell. They threw a lot of good stuff at us quickly, but what holds it all together?

Two questions I have: Is Federation HQ a starship saucer section now? WTF was that? And did they just put River Tam from Firefly in Star Trek? Because it kind of looks like they did. Might not be Summer Glau, but that girl definitely had River Tam energy.

Will definitely give this a chance — I've been saying they should make a Starfleet Academy series for decades. Now we're getting one.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 4 points 16 hours ago

The San Francisco campus - or at least a large portion of it - is actually the USS Athena, a fully-functional starship that can land on Earth, but also go on mission when needed to provide some hands-on training (and, I assume, help a Starfleet that's still spread fairly thin). They talked a little bit more about it here.

As far as I'm aware, Federation HQ remains a giant ship/space station.

[–] stargazingpenguin@lemmy.zip 4 points 20 hours ago

Apparently in later Discovery they actually used a starship, the USS Federation, as the Federation headquarters. It appears the Athena is just for the academy though.

[–] GlassHalfHopeful@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I think this trailer says more about me than it does Star Trek. It seems Paramount is done making Star Trek for my demographic, which is okay I suppose. Just feeling my age. 😅.

I hope it does well for the new generation. I kind of wish Discovery ended with Discovery. I mean I watched it and there are characters that I liked, but didn't really enjoy the story. But! I do love Tig Notaro and I'm glad to see her on Academy. Super stoked about Ricardo.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I doubt they're "done" with any particular demo, but they've been pretty up-front about being concerned about an aging/dying fanbase, and wanting to make some stuff for younger people.

But I do think that they've been pretty good at giving each series its own time and vibe, so hopefully something down the road will appeal to you if this doesn't.

[–] GlassHalfHopeful@lemmy.ca 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

I mean, on the plus side, Klingons look'ish like Klingons again. 😁 (Which I know isn't exactly true, but Worf said enough on this topic in DS9 (YT clip))

PS I remember laughing so hard when I first saw this scene. 😂

[–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

There are a bunch of the perennial brigading naysayers on other platforms already venting that this young Klingon is too skinny/lanky.

Seems that they never saw Tony Todd as Kurn or considered that TALL is an important Klingon physical characteristic.

[–] GlassHalfHopeful@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 hours ago

You know, I was needing something to watch as I'm doing some mundane tasks at the moment. I think I'll watch the first episode in TNG with Kurn now. 😁

[–] socprof@masto.ai 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@GlassHalfHopeful @ValueSubtracted Exactly my view as well. I still like SNW, though, even though the last season was thin gruel in terms of writing.

[–] GlassHalfHopeful@lemmy.ca 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It has been hard for me to admit it, but I feel the same way about SNW. For the first time in Trek history, my partner has been watching Star Trek SNW with me and is enjoying it. Which... is kind of the problem. 😬 I been getting... bored. 😞

Strange New World resonates for my partner in ways that are the very reasons I'm not particularly fond of the series, but this is good for them and good for other people entering the world of Trek and enjoying it.

I'll continue to enjoy reruns of TNG and DS9 forever. And who knows, maybe I'll get lucky with a series that I can really connect with in the future.

[–] socprof@masto.ai 2 points 13 hours ago

@GlassHalfHopeful I've enjoyed Prodigy and Lower Decks, but I've varied between indifference and anger at Discovery and Picard.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

This trailer gave me basically no information about what the show will be about. Is it a coming of age school drama? A slice of life about up and coming Starfleet officers? A story about an improbably young group of protagonists situated in the heart of a galactic superpower saving the day?

One of the interesting things Disney Star Wars has tried, to varying levels of success, was trying out new genres within the universe to justify running many different shows simultaneously. Why set this at the Academy unless you're going to do something different?

[–] mactan@lemmy.ml 6 points 18 hours ago

we don't even know what the existential threat to the galaxy is yet!

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

The first and third for sure, don't think the second will be a significant factor.

Felt a little like Hogwarts in Space.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm just here for Robert Picardo.

The show dies look that great based on the trailer. However of our characters start of terrible and grow, this could work out well. I'm just not sure that's the show we're getting.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Him and Janet Reno, one of the few bright spots of an otherwise disappointing DIS

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

True. And Holly Hunter will probably be a great captain. But Picardo is who brings me to the table.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Agreed, my favorite doctor after Bones, although it does hurt my heart a bit to see him old like Riker in Picard. I recently restarted TNG and they put Bones in old man makeup for the handoff episode…time itself is enough :(

[–] milkisklim@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Klingons with hair dye? We don't talk about that with outsiders...

It doesn't seem quite like Disco with an over focus on just one Mary Sue, so I'm hopeful.