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[–] Aeao@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This reminds me of the phrase I hate “this coming from the TOLERANT left?!”

I never said I tolerated bullshit! I just believe gay and trans people are human beings. Other than that I’m very easily irritated.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

its always a conservative saying tolerant left. the right has never tolerated anything left to them, why should they get the same thing.

[–] joyjoy@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

Always remember the paradox of tolerance. To paraphrase:

Never tolerate intolerance.

[–] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, she did a lot for shinning a light on the struggles of trans people. She did fucking nothing for the stereotype of women drivers...

[–] cooligula@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago

Spotted Ricky Gervais

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 51 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This is like saying you can't make fun of Kristi Noem because she's a woman. If you mock her for being a woman you're a piece of shit, if you mock her for all of the horrible things she does and says you're fine. Her sex and gender have nothing to do with her being an awful stain on humanity (and dogkind).

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 28 points 3 days ago (4 children)

It's like saying you can't make fun of JD Vance for being a couch fucker. Oh wait, you can.

Sorry(I stole this gif)

and yet when that southpark episode of her aired people were celebrating it very openly and calling me a fascist enabler for telling people that being a woman is not one of her faults, there are plenty of actual faults to choose from.

[–] Corridor8031@lemmy.ml 45 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

that they always use "can not do it" is kind of telling that they dont understand anything at all. or often they say "are not allowed to"

It is like they are saying i cant hit because of the law, instead of not wanting to hurt someone

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The thing is that I tend to believe you can in fact joke about anything, including being transgender.

What they usually fail to get is that being a raging transphobic asshole and covering it up saying "it's a joke" is a very different thing.

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[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 29 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Are we allowed a measure of schadenfreude at the trans person that joined the anti trans party being mocked by the transphobes they tried to court with hate for a different "other"?

Because that's the part I like.

[–] bytesonbike@discuss.online 4 points 2 days ago

It's so insane to me that she exists.

Literally conservatives calling trans folks sexual predators and then she turns around and goes, "I know every single one but me!"

Then again, black folk be like this too.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Reminds me of the "Jew for Hitler" folk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_German_National_Jews

Ffs turns out there were two similar groups https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Vanguard

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

They literally dont see the difference. Making fun of Catelyn's shitty behavior and crimes and making fun of trans women in general is one and the same to them. They think that actions necessarily stem, fundamentally, from the "kinds" of people they are. Everyone is a characticture, a stereotype.

"You're gay? Well you're a leftie, socialist, gun-hating, pedophile who speaks effeminately, dresses flamboyantly, and does drag" They wouldnt even know how to handle a gay man that wears carhartt and camo, has a big bushy beard, votes Republican and owns a gun store, becuase such a thing is self-contradictory to them. How can this masculine beast of a guy be attracted to other men and want to have sex with them? It doesn't compute.

It's why gay men, black men, women and others that join Republican groups, people that don't fit the mold, find themselves often targetted with hatred and derision by their own "allies". It's not just that they are hateful bigots (and they are), but that they genuinely do not actually believe that they can be sincere in their shared beliefs because they aren't the right kind of people.

They are literally deciding Charlie Kirk's assassin must have been a leftie based entirely on the possibility that he might have had a sexual relationship with a trans roommate. Yes, a big part of that conclusion is grasping at anything to escape culpability and scape goat the left as usual, but they do also fully beleive that that is damning evidence. Becuase right wingers never have anything but herero-normative sex lives. Dont tell Grindr.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

thhey defend caitlyns jenners transphobia.

[–] kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I learned to stop working off that strict either-or dichotomy when I met my first girlfriend. She was the crunchy blissed out (read: permanently stoned) type who was all about PLUR, good vibes, and hemp jewlery. At least until you brought up abortion, immigration, or any other conservative boogeyman. Then she was Pat Buchanan with a redheaded wig and a copy of Billy Breathes.

[–] drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago

Many people like that.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I think that's a result of the US two-party system. It's spilling over to Europe too, via the media, but I think it originates with the US political system.

It's so tribal and "bi-partisan".

In my country, there's 6 major parties, which are all a different mix on what they are for and what they are against. That means, there's a much larger set of "buckets" a person can fit in. Due to the fact that there are often multiple parties that one person would be OK with voting for them, there's a lot more voter mobility, and thus it's much more common that someone doesn't actually fully agree with a single party at all, but switches which party to vote for depending on what's going on.

If stereotypes aren't enforced that much, people tend to be quite much more complex and self-contradictory than what appears at first glance if you just look for stereotypes.

[–] Rusty@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago
[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 days ago

It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that shitty people are distributed through the population. There are shitty people in every single subgroup.

And an annoyingly high number of them are far more famous that I like.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 10 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Honest question from an ally. She was Bruce and going by masculine verbage then. Is it still misgendering them by referring to them as such when talking about the murder?

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 35 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If Bob Smith invented a new device and then became a doctor, would you say Dr. Bob Smith invented the device or just Bob Smith invented it? It is correct to use current terms to refer to what a person did. People don't care what a person used to be called. They just want to know who invented the device.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This makes it make sense. Thanks homie.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Now kiss. All the homies give forehead kisses

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Forehead‽ Na give the homies legit smooches! (Iffy's skit on smarty-pants)

ooo, i'm gonna have to binge that. it feels QI-ish.

[–] waldfee@feddit.org 15 points 3 days ago

Yes, her name-change applies retroactively, so when you talk about something that she has done, you may say that she did that

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[–] sober_monk@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Buckle up, buckaroo!

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