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[–] p0ntyp00l@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 4 days ago
[–] MasterDeeLuke@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Socialism doesn't work, yet we have to constantly embargo/sanction/bomb socialist countries to keep them from rising while at the same time having to throw billions to other capitalists to keep them from sinking.

[–] Maeve1@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This is what is just jaw-droppingly obvious to me, and it blows my mind people who talk about poverty rates in AES states without batting an eye at actual living conditions on the ground at home.

[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Because AES have to be utopias, any flaw makes them hell on earth. Flaws at home are just normal.

Capitalists when flaws at home: "It's loopholes capitalism, humans are flawed beings, guvwerning is suwper hawd uwu pwease gib more bailouts fow our investow class. :3."

Capitalists when flaws in an AES state: "This demonstrates how communists eat babies, want everyone to suffer as much as possible, and can't ever do anything competent. They are physically incapable of being good people and must be stopped even if we have to do supreme acts of evil to make it happen. I mean, wait. Acts of good. Because we're the good ones. 100%. No flaws here. I mean, wait. We're flawed. Just, uh... when we're governing. Not when we're bombing them for governing evilly with pure evil. Then we're perfect angels."

Meanwhile AES states are like: "In the year X, month Y, day Z, we found that we overdid things by 13% and under-performed in our goals by 24%. Our analysis shows that we can improve conditions for our people by doing A, B, and C adjustments." later "We did the adjustments and they worked, people are getting their needs met more effectively and are living more empowered lives. We will continue to make improvements in sector N and sector M. Here is a scientific dissertation on the methodology we used."

Then capitalists are like: "How dare you try to show us up on science! Here is an unclassified dissertation on how we used a mixture of bombs, terrorism, sanctions, and NGOs to make yet another country submit to our exploitation."

[–] Maeve1@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 4 days ago

Talk about a mind-trap.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 5 days ago
[–] Saymaz@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 4 days ago

The most libertarian thing the libertarians have done in the history of libertarianism.

[–] KiwiComrade@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

What is this money going to be spent on?

[–] Pathfinder@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Literally just US dollars. They’re not “buying” anything with it. It’s not being used to plug a budgetary deficit (not needed for that anyway). It’s just a load of USD to be used to prop up the exchange rate, which would otherwise have the peso depreciate against the USD so prices for Argentinians on imported goods would rise significantly (i.e. more inflation). So this is just a $20B “gift” so inflation in Argentina doesn’t spike up before the election and Milei doesn’t lose more than he already will. Russia spends $200 million on “election interference” in 2016 through Facebook posts. The US spends $20B to actually interfere in Argentina’s election.

It’s the same way IMF loans work, only those have to be paid back. Poor country gets a loan from the IMF to prop up their FX rate. The rate eventually collapses anyway. Now the poor country has to pay back the loan but doesn’t have any increased means to pay it.

The IMF has been the main tool in US imperialism (arguably even more than the military) for decades now.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 4 days ago

bailing out the rich of course