The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.
When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."
When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.
Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.
The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
That's the solution.
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• Know your rights: Filming the police
• Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)
• Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.
• Police lie under oath, a lot
• Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak
• Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street
• Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States
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Does anyone know what was illegal about the stop? At one point she seems to imply that because the person detained was 17 that somehow made the stop illegal.
I'm not questioning this woman's bravery or actions in any way. I'm just trying to learn if she was right on the law or bluffing; if she was right I want the details in case I can ever help in a similar situation.
The mothers of those Nazi fucks really failed them. Never said "I love you" or hugged them. This is how you create sociopaths who become fascists.
Maybe their moms were right though. They are unlovable, irredeemable wastes of fucking air and should spend the rest of their miserable subhuman lives in prison.
Their dads are just as much to blame as their moms
Link to article?
There isn't one. We are lucky this was caught on film.
Get ready for more and more important things to not be written about at all.
That's a misinformation trap.
Please don't post things that haven't been verified.
Lol, so let me get this straight. Reality only exists if an approved™ news corporation (not one that accepts donations, for obvious reasons) writes an article about events?
Are you suggesting that this video is somehow faked? The person claiming that the stop was illegal may have been wrong, but the video seems to credibly convey a real situation.
Sure seemed like an illegal traffic stop that's illegal in Illinois.
It got them to stop kidnapping. They atleast released one.
I was being tongue in cheek about her saying that phrase repeatedly. Glad she was there to help. These people are despicable.
I thought it was funny because she could totally be lying and I would never be the wiser as she said it with such confidence... Plus I don't live in IL.
It's also illegal to drive without both plates in illinois
Yeah I was confused by that
Ice was confused too, because they aren't trained and don't know shit. Telling them whatever they're doing is illegal with confidence at least makes them think twice.
Yeah I think that's not a bad strategy, and could very well be what happened.
“Over there.”
Wow ... that woman is a hero
This is what happens when you stand up to intimidation. If only more people did this everywhere and often enough, America people could actually get their country back.
I only wish for her safety. More people need to stand with brave individuals like this because they are risking everything every time they stand up.
Wow, people like this give me hope for your country. I have far more respect for her than any highly paid politician that runs your dumb country. She stood up for the people .... while a few politicians actively attack people and the rest just stand by doing nothing or as little as possible.
Hey now. Those stern letters don't write themselves (although it now occurs to me that Chuck Schumer could be replaced in an instant by an LLM and no one would ever be the wiser).
LLM can't wear glasses so far down their non-existent noses though.
I'd vote for the LLM than any of these human idiots currently in political positions.
No better excuse to usher in the AI overlords than to put in place the worst of humanity in positions of power.
Any information on what about the traffic stop was illegal (besides it being by masked, armed, unidentified paramilitary goons)?
And good for that woman. When we, the people, stand together, we are stronger than them.
You have to have reasonable suspicion that a crime has occurred to make a traffic stop.
A crime did occur, just not by the 17 year old being abducted.
Honestly, I don't think the traffic stop being illegal was why these racists stopped. Kidnapping is also illegal.
"fuckin' goofies"
Love it!!
Would be very sad if the license plates led to doxxing agents and their managers
Would be even sadder if those agents and managers were unable to lead normal lives ever again
Who is the person with the Texas plate?
I thought the other goofy (the one with jeans and a tan cap) got in that car
Same praxis:
They’ll try it again, and again, until no more “illegal checkstops” are possible.
Damn liberals, if laws were their least of their worries.
What's this, they elected an unscrupulous corrupt convicted scammer, and he keeps illegally scamming?
Same praxis
Uhhh not really? She did more than know her rights, she caused a scene and intimidated the fuck out of them.
What a shitty comment to make, dude.